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Oct 11, 2017, 12:25 PM
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Hi building this super easy rc plane is it really necessary rudder for a beginner? Cant I make the elevators work just like in a delta so only 2 servos can move the plane up/down and sideways?
Hey Gil .... you're back !
Yes , you can set it up with elevons , Nightstone has done it successfully :
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...&postcount=216
The elevons need to be full span to be effective ..... and for self righting , it's important to keep the dihedral .



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Oct 11, 2017, 03:08 PM
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The SE deserves the 'Most Fun Per Buck' award for 2017. An overdue recognition.
Oct 11, 2017, 04:07 PM
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The SE deserves the 'Most Fun Per Buck' award for 2017. An overdue recognition.
Thanks !
Have you made one goldguy ?
Oct 11, 2017, 09:29 PM
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No, but have built the Warp 9, a similar setup.

Maybe I'll turn one out and show the new guys that are into Dollar $tore foam board just how easy it is to get it right.

Got so many things on the go right now............... supposed to be retired!!
Oct 11, 2017, 09:37 PM
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Super simple and quick build foamies really get my attention. Especially if they'll do funky aerobatics. That's a combination of 3D, extreme inputs and old age.

Some get it, some don't.
Oct 12, 2017, 09:54 AM
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Maybe I'll turn one out and show the new guys that are into Dollar $tore foam board just how easy it is to get it right.
If you make one , photos and video please !

I fly my current SE regularly ..... it is WAY overpowered and it's super fun to do VTO's and unlimited vertical ! It has this motor on it : http://www.hobbypartz.com/86mb82-3010-1700kv.html
Oct 12, 2017, 02:31 PM
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@balsa or carbon my friend I am back!!! I had to travel a lot because of my work but today is a "children's national holliday" in Brazil and I took some time to fly the ezfly you taught me!!!

The day was not good and the place that I tried to fly was not great, too many cars and people around but was the best I could find. I used the EZFLY model (the same of the other post) and here you can see it flying: https://photos.app.goo.gl/XrxxmAPN12vG0xTp1

Here is another video, I am still overcontrolling it: https://photos.app.goo.gl/0OBJdIWmQnss6xRy2

I will be honest @balsa and carbon, this EZFLY is great BUT the tail breaks TOO easy!! Everytime I crash it breaks the tail and I have to find some power socket to plug my hot glue gun and fix the problem... That's why I am trying to find an easier plane to repair.

This SE plane looks perfect cause it seems just some sheets of foam glued together! I think it will be much harder to crash it!

I took a look at the the link you provided me https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...&postcount=216 and it's good new to know I can use only 2 servos! Indeed! But this nice guy that posted his video with the SE plane didnt give dimensions.... and as you taught me, CG position is a must and if I dont get it right I will not fly (mainly becuse I am a totally beginner).

So do you know if I can follow this current thread building instruction and instead of using rudder I just increase the lenght of the elevator? The CG and everything else will be the same my friend?
Oct 12, 2017, 02:35 PM
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One more thing! This current thread ( https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...E-instructions ) has 52 pages! Do you know if there is an updated version of this SE plane that I can build in these 52 pages or should I stick with the #1 and #2 instructions?

I see #235 is bigger and slow (which is great to me) but I see no dimensions! I have no idea how many cm is a "dolar tree" foam. Where could I get dimensions to reliably reproduce this great plane? In this image https://static.rcgroups.net/forums/a...3-IMGP0685.jpg you provide a ruler but is it in inches or cm my friend? Actually I measured here with my eye and I think this sheet looks 92cm diagonal but it does not say me anything about height/width (X and Y size) since I dont know the angle of the diagonal ;( So I cant discover on my own the X and Y of this sheet!
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Oct 12, 2017, 02:56 PM
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One more thing! This current thread ( https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...E-instructions ) has 52 pages! Do you know if there is an updated version of this SE plane that I can build in these 52 pages or should I stick with the #1 and #2 instructions?
Start with post #2 photo instructions , then Post #1 photo instructions .... for constructing the wings , fuselage and prop slot .

The only thing you'll be doing differently is putting elevons on it instead of the rudder and elevators . Make sure the elevons go all the way to the ends of the wings .... like in Nightstone's Diamond SE .
Oct 12, 2017, 03:13 PM
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I see #235 is bigger and slow (which is great to me) but I see no dimensions! I have no idea how many cm is a "dolar tree" foam. Where could I get dimensions to reliably reproduce this great plane? In this image https://static.rcgroups.net/forums/a...3-IMGP0685.jpg you provide a ruler but is it in inches or cm my friend? Actually I measured here with my eye and I think this sheet looks 92cm diagonal but it does not say me anything about height/width (X and Y size) since I dont know the angle of the diagonal ;( So I cant discover on my own the X and Y of this sheet!
I wouldn't worry about making the bigger one in post #235 , just make yours using the photo instructions in posts #2 & #1 . It doesn't matter what the dimensions ( numbers ) are ..... if your foam board is rectangular , just make your first cut diagonally from one corner to the opposite corner ..... and you'll have your two wings .

Then on a second sheet of foam board , cut it in half lengthways . Then cut each of those two pieces in half with a diagonal cut from one corner to the opposite corner ..... and you'll have your fuselage pieces . For strength , I would make the fuselage at least two or three layers thick .
Oct 12, 2017, 03:52 PM
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Put the prop slot at 50% of the total length ( from the tip of the nose , down the center line all the way to the back of the tail ) . Then the CG is right in front of the prop slot , at about 40% .
Oct 12, 2017, 08:02 PM
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If you make one , photos and video please !

I fly my current SE regularly ..... it is WAY overpowered and it's super fun to do VTO's and unlimited vertical ! It has this motor on it : http://www.hobbypartz.com/86mb82-3010-1700kv.html
I made mine out of coreplast and we use it for a paintball target!
Oct 12, 2017, 08:06 PM
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I made mine out of coreplast and we use it for a paintball target!
If possible , post a video of that !
Oct 12, 2017, 09:04 PM
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The smallest setup I currently have is a 2200kv 50g motor and a 1300 3s. Is that too much for an SE?
Oct 12, 2017, 10:56 PM
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The smallest setup I currently have is a 2200kv 50g motor and a 1300 3s. Is that too much for an SE?
It's not ideal, but I think you could make it work .

If you build one, photos and video please .


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