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Jun 19, 2012, 06:01 PM
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Help!

cant bind


hi all,
my JR 9303 2.4 is not binding with any of my RX,,,for a year all is fine today i wanted to set my new motor and esc but it wont bind i test it with my other planes no binding,,,used the bind plug still nothing my satellite flashes very fast but the RX lite wont come on!!!!
what is wrong,,the radio powers up all programs work....
thanks
Ben
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Jun 19, 2012, 06:16 PM
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If the sat is flashing rapidly but not the receiver then you have receiver issues.

There are reports of getting flashing led with the power connected in reverse with bind plug inserted but binding failing.

Ensure you have proper power and bind plug properly inserted. Once you have this addressed and both
The main and sat receivers are flashing then you can look at the radio
Jun 19, 2012, 06:38 PM
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i have 5 RX's and none bind...
should't the button on the back of radio light up when pressed ?
Jun 19, 2012, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by FASTBEN
... should't the button on the back of radio light up when pressed ?
No, the LED on the back of the tranny turns off when you press the button to indicate the module is in range check (low power) mode.

But before you even turn the tranny on you must be sure the main and remote receivers are in bind mode - LEDs on all of them are flashing rapidly. If even one of them is not, there is no point of continuing with turning the tranny on in bind mode.
Jun 19, 2012, 07:56 PM
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so what may be the cuz???
and how could 5 RX;s go bad on the same day?
Last edited by FASTBEN; Jun 19, 2012 at 08:08 PM.
Jun 19, 2012, 10:29 PM
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The first thing is to check that the receivers are in bind mode, as discussed above. Then test that the transmitter goes into bind mode.

Hold the button while turning on and release it in a couple of seconds (exact timing is not critical). The button should be flashing rapidly. If it isn't you have a transmitter problem.

As noted above, both the main receiver unit and the satellites must be flashing rapidly for bind to take place. Sometimes there is a bad connection that prevents a satellite from going into bind mode or binding. This can usually be cured by unplugging and replugging the cable at both ends or using some contact cleaner.
Jun 19, 2012, 10:40 PM
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Ben
If I understand correctly you went to bind a new setup and it failed.
You attempted to "connect" to other models that were already bound and they failed as well?
You cant bind or connect to anything?

If so I hate to say it sounds like a bad RF deck in the Tx.
Jun 20, 2012, 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by FASTBEN
... used the bind plug still nothing my satellite flashes very fast but the RX lite wont come on!!!! ... Ben
This portion of your original post is a bit confusing.

Sat and Main receivers should go into bind mode when bind plug is inserted and proper power is supplied. Both units LED should be blinking fast before you move on and look at the radio.
Jun 20, 2012, 07:45 AM
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well no lights are blinking on any of the RX's that is what puzzles me,this should have nothing to do with my TX,until the lights come on in RX i cant find out if the TX goes to binding mode.
Jun 20, 2012, 07:50 AM
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Check your bind plug.
Ensure the wire is not broken.

Once you have receiver confirmation that it's in BIND mode then you can move on to the radio.
Jun 20, 2012, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by FASTBEN
well no lights are blinking on any of the RX's that is what puzzles me,this should have nothing to do with my TX,until the lights come on in RX i cant find out if the TX goes to binding mode.
Ben
In the OP you said "test it with my other planes no binding,,,used the bind plug still nothing my satellite flashes very fast but the RX lite wont come on!!!!".


Ok I see now.I guess I misunderstood.I still dont completely understand.
Your remotes are fast blinking but the Rx are not? I find it hard to believe multiple Rx/sat combinations are all doing the same thing all at once.
Are you sure you are understanding the bind process?
You have done this before? Right?
Are you using a known good power source?
Bindplug is in the Rx port marked bind?

If there is something about the bind process your not understanding please ask again.Your definition of what exactly is happening is kind of confusing.
To me anyway.I assumed you were mixing up the term "bind" and "connect"
with your other Rxs that also did not work.Thats what I get for making assumptions.

I think you need to be more clear exactly what you are doing and what is happening at the various stages of the bind (or connect) process to be able to get an accurate picture of what is going on here.

If your not getting a fastblink on main Rx and remote(s) when you power them with bindplug in then it is correct that there is no point going any further until you find out why.I kind of understand you had fastblink on the remote but not the main Rx? This would kind of indicate a borderline power supply.Ive found over the years that the remotes are very slightly more forgiving to lack of power than the main Rxs are.
Last edited by aerocal; Jun 20, 2012 at 09:30 AM.
Jun 20, 2012, 09:27 AM
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+1, only guessing at this point cause info is lacking or confusing.
Jun 20, 2012, 06:33 PM
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Same confusion here - I don't see how a remote receiver will get into bind mode (LED flashing rapidly) while the main won't. Maybe the OP does not make difference between "bind" and "connect" and/or does not understand the binding process. Correct info from the OP is needed to be able to help him.
Jun 20, 2012, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by FASTBEN
well no lights are blinking on any of the RX's that is what puzzles me,this should have nothing to do with my TX,until the lights come on in RX i cant find out if the TX goes to binding mode.
By "RX" do you mean the main units? The satellites are receivers too.

I have seen cases where with the bind plug in and no Tx turned on, the main unit showed rapid flashing but the satellite showed something else, such as intermittent flash or weak steady light. The problem was the connector cable contacts.

But I haven't see the satellite doing the rapid flash of bind mode without the main unit doing likewise.

Please clarify what happens.
Jun 20, 2012, 07:56 PM
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ok lets see if i can do this correct.
i had flown 3 planes last week with these main RX ans satellite's i hook the power then my TX and all was good,i switched motor and ESC cc100 lite with internal BEC hooked my 4s and ESC beeped but no servo's worked,,,so i used my plug to see if i need to bind one more time still nothing so i grabbed my small hand luch with orange HK RX charged the battery and hooked up no flashing light on main i then took another plane same but in that one i could see a rapid flashing on satellite but very week the rest is history i used all other 2.4 dms2 RX's with a 2s 300mil 7.4 with regulator but no help the battery has fresh charge...


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