Originally Posted by madsci_guy

I believe that he is still being sued, as is Costco.

As I understand one version of the sequence of events, Scott had already walked past Officer Mosher, when Lierley, who placed the 911 call, alerted Mosher, and pointed him out. From then on it was a rushed job, with Mosher trying to catch up to someone already past him. I believe this sequence is accurate, because Scott had to turn around to face Mosher.

From the inquest

Got a link? According to this one Costco was dropped from the suit before the police were. http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2011...deral-lawsuit/

Originally Posted by wrightme

I currently have a prescription for oxycodone, and at one time, had enough in me to just about stop urination. Do you diagnose me as having a penchant for suicide, or an addiction?

I hope you strongly consider not carrying when you're under such a large dose of this strong narcotic.

....hallucinations; hearing loss; mental or mood changes (eg, agitation, anxiety, depression)

I have been around people who have had all of the above side effects (and others) while taking this drug. Carrying a weapon while under the influence is not a smart thing to do.

It can easily lead to poor decision making and might just get someone killed.

That must be the oldest Costco building ever - what is that? 14th century? Maybe the guy would have been better off with a pike.......

Originally Posted by leccyflyer

That must be the oldest Costco building ever - what is that? 14th century? Maybe the guy would have been better off with a pike.......

Quality. LOL

The moat and drawbridge were removed several years ago.

Originally Posted by leccyflyer

Except, of course, there isn't a shred of evidence that was what occurred in this case, since the report is of a heated argument.

I was responding to the claim of 'only one way to be polite.'

Originally Posted by leccyflyer

An armed rugged individualist with a "you're not the boss of me" attitude comes up against a "wannabe cop". In the absence of the gun the event would most likely have ended with the rugged individualist being escorted from the premises, and he might get someone to write a strongly worded complaint for him.

Now you are assuming attitudes not in evidence. But, if there was no gun, the incident would not have happened.

Originally Posted by leccyflyer

Put the gun into the equation, add in some armed police and the situation ends up with a rugged individualist adopting room temperature. It could have so easily been avoided if he hadn't been a jerk when asked to leave the store.

No, once again, you are assuming items that are not in evidence. You are speculating that he acted like a jerk. The one who shows such action is the store employee.

Originally Posted by Kenny Sharp

I would have confronted him.... and ask him why he needed to carry a phallic symbol on his waist exposed to everyone.

So which is it? Is he a threat, or someone you would confront? He can't be both.

Your claim that you would confront him makes him approachable in your eyes, so you understand he isn't a threat. But, for some reason, it irks you that he is armed, and it isn't due to 'threat.'

Originally Posted by CoastalFlyer

No, the "extent of his offense" is he didn't comply with the request to leave the premises - something the store is well within their right to request.

That is something he is well within his rights to challenge and choose to not do.

Originally Posted by CF

No, it doesn't. I deal with many Real Estate professionals, many women, and not one is fearful of being an "easy victim" or feels compelled to carry a weapon. Nor would they get the permit to do so approved.

So, what does that have to do with someone you don't know? Who lives in what might as well be another country?
Unlike the island, we don't need reasons here.

Originally Posted by CoastalFlyer

I hope you strongly consider not carrying when you're under such a large dose of this strong narcotic.

"such a large dose"?

It was the one pill each 4 hours. I only stayed on then one day since they had such a huge bad effect. THAT is my point, drugs do NOT affect each person the same.

Even with that, I easily determined by myself that continuing to take that drug would have me in the hospital. The rest of those effects weren't something I experienced.

Originally Posted by Sport Flyer

Got a link? According to this one Costco was dropped from the suit before the police were. http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2011...deral-lawsuit/

I could be wrong. Your referenced site is where I got most of my info.

Bottom line, it's a tragedy.

One other thing that nobody's mentioned regarding plausible scenarios...
Things would have been different if he'd have called the cops first.

Except that he had no inkling that there was any trouble. No Costco employee notified him that the police were on their way.

Good thing it's that gun's don't kill - it's the people (as has been mentioned on here before).

Oh! Hang On - it's people that use the guns... And if they'd both had drinking straws the fella would obviously have still died - sucked to death! (My brain hurts.. )

Originally Posted by madsci_guy

Except that he had no inkling that there was any trouble. No Costco employee notified him that the police were on their way.

He could have called the cops and told them that the store was violating his second amendment rights ... as soon as he was asked to leave.

Originally Posted by Kenny Sharp

He could of called the cops and told them that the store was violating his second amendment rights ... as soon as he was asked to leave.

No, he could not claim that.
It is possible that he could have claimed that the store employee was harassing him.

Originally Posted by Kenny Sharp

He could have called the cops and told them that the store was violating his second amendment rights ... as soon as he was asked to leave.

That's not sufficient reason for a 911 call.