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Old Mar 13, 2012, 03:05 PM
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USPS Prohibits ALL Lithium Outbound International Shipments


Straight from USPS Headquarters 03/13/2012...

I just got notification that the USPS has made a final determination about international shipping of Lithium Polymer batteries. As of May 7th 2012, Lithium batteries OR products containing Lithium batteries will not be allowed to ship international or to APO, FPO, or DPO. This effects line 39 CFR Part 20 - Outbound International Mailings of Lithium Batteries and Other Dangerous Goods

"This final rule describes the prohibitions established for mailpieces containing lithium metal or lithium-ion cells or batteries and applies regardless of quantity, size, watt hours, and whether the cells or batteries are packed in equipment, with equipment, or without equipment."

"Until such time that a less restrictive policy can be implemented consistent with international standards... lithium batteries of any form shall be prohibited when mailed internationally or to an APO, FPO, or DPO location outside the of the United States (including its territories)."

Just thought I would pass this along in case anybody wants to sell a battery to a military serviceman overseas or our neighbors in Puerto Rico, Canada or Mexico (etc).
Last edited by mattyhawk; Mar 14, 2012 at 04:09 PM. Reason: Added "Outbound" to title
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Old Mar 13, 2012, 05:07 PM
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Are you absolutely sure about this ? http://pe.usps.com/cpim/ftp/pubs/pub52/pub52.pdf

That seems to contradict section 6 , exhibit 622.5

Do you have a link from the postal bulletin for this ?
Old Mar 13, 2012, 05:23 PM
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if true,...we all knew this going to happen anyhow. The only entity that this might hurt is HK, and even then HK now has the USA warehouse. And then there's hobbypartz...and others with cheap Lipo options now as well here in the states.

Quite honestly, now that I think about it, it won't affect me at all.
Old Mar 13, 2012, 06:06 PM
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It appears to be for shipping 'out' of the USA so no effect on HK.
Old Mar 13, 2012, 06:25 PM
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Are you absolutely sure about this ? http://pe.usps.com/cpim/ftp/pubs/pub52/pub52.pdf

That seems to contradict section 6 , exhibit 622.5

Do you have a link from the postal bulletin for this ?
The public documents aren't updated yet it would seem, no link.

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if true,...we all knew this going to happen anyhow. The only entity that this might hurt is HK, and even then HK now has the USA warehouse. And then there's hobbypartz...and others with cheap Lipo options now as well here in the states.

Quite honestly, now that I think about it, it won't affect me at all.
Yeah, so far it won't affect the majority, but it shows a USPS trend that I am not pleased with. Can you imagine the fall out if USPS stopped accepting inbound lipo shipments? Ouch.
Old Mar 13, 2012, 10:44 PM
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A wild thought. If it did affect inbound...do you think domestic prices would stay as they are? Doubt it.
Old Mar 13, 2012, 10:54 PM
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USPS is pensioning it's way into extinction according to one of my long time mail worker friends. So, look for options .
Old Mar 13, 2012, 11:53 PM
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the day will come when it will be cheaper to buy from you LHS! NOT!

Old Mar 14, 2012, 12:03 AM
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Why would they prohibit outbound, but not inbound shipments? That just seems kinda pointless. Same trucks, same buildings, same content, what's the deal
Old Mar 14, 2012, 08:20 AM
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Shhhh, don't tell them that. No one ever said the USPS was the brightest bunch
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Old Mar 14, 2012, 08:57 AM
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UPS in shrewsbury MA had a incident a week ago with a package that ignited and released a toxic smoke with heat inside one of the trailers. They are investigating what caused it haven't heard anything else since this happend. My first thought was a lipo decided to let go the power hope that isn't the case. It would/could cause problems for us in the hobby down the road.
Old Mar 14, 2012, 10:56 AM
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UPS in shrewsbury MA had a incident a week ago with a package that ignited and released a toxic smoke with heat inside one of the trailers. They are investigating what caused it haven't heard anything else since this happend. My first thought was a lipo decided to let go the power hope that isn't the case. It would/could cause problems for us in the hobby down the road.
You can bet that after a couple more incidents like that, lithium based batteries will be banned from USPS.



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Why would they prohibit outbound, but not inbound shipments? That just seems kinda pointless. Same trucks, same buildings, same content, what's the deal
The people packing the shipments. From some of the masterful packing I've seen from eBay, RCU and RCG members over the years, I'd ban them too.
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Old Mar 14, 2012, 11:51 AM
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I take this new rule with a grain of salt...

They cant even regulate drugs going through the mail, how the heck are they going to come down on batteries...
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Old Mar 14, 2012, 11:55 AM
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UPS in shrewsbury MA had a incident a week ago with a package that ignited and released a toxic smoke with heat inside one of the trailers. They are investigating what caused it haven't heard anything else since this happend. My first thought was a lipo decided to let go the power hope that isn't the case. It would/could cause problems for us in the hobby down the road.
Whoa - I missed that. I would have had the same first thought.
Old Mar 14, 2012, 01:16 PM
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I take this new rule with a grain of salt...

They cant even regulate drugs going through the mail, how the heck are they going to come down on batteries...
USPS won't regulate until something happens, then its a federal crime and all the fun that ensues for the sender.


BTW: sorry I didn't put "Outbound" in the title, probably caused some to think we couldn't get shipments in from overseas.


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