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Feb 18, 2013, 02:20 AM
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Ok, the parts are being printed. I installed the second servo yesterday, so I can focus on the aerodynamics soon. Only the canopy is missing now.

Chris
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Feb 18, 2013, 02:46 AM
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Good to hear Chris.
Feb 21, 2013, 03:30 PM
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Yeah


The parts arrived. And btw I upgraded my computer with an ssd drive. Incredible (OT)!!! Pics next...
Feb 22, 2013, 09:40 AM
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Here they are
Feb 22, 2013, 04:38 PM
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Nice stuff Chris!

I found a printing firm that will print down to 0.1mm without whining about it. Just in liaison with them now, and more than 30% cheaper than SW!
Feb 22, 2013, 08:16 PM
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Looks great Chris. The accuracy for the size looks awesome.

NC - that's awesome if it works out. SWs latest shipping price ruined them for us down here...
Feb 24, 2013, 03:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NitroCharged
Nice stuff Chris!

I found a printing firm that will print down to 0.1mm without whining about it. Just in liaison with them now, and more than 30% cheaper than SW!

Wow cheaper than shapeways is already hard to believe. What about strength of the material? Do they have a web page?

BTW, the nacelle ends with 0 thickness, they didn't complain about that either. I believe the same would apply to the blades, if the thickest point in the airfoil is at least .3mm.

I will try to build a first motor with that new frame on Tuesday. Still on the road...

Chris
Last edited by Chris T; Feb 26, 2013 at 11:25 AM.
Feb 26, 2013, 03:20 PM
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This is what I am talking about
Feb 26, 2013, 06:00 PM
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We need a finger or something to give scale. I have a sneaking suspicion these things are 'king small!
Feb 26, 2013, 07:55 PM
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WOW this is some great work chris. I usually only like Prop planes but this is to incredible not to follow. Who knows You may sway me to the EDF side lol. Again Incredible work.

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Mar 03, 2013, 10:22 AM
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Up and running. I broke a nacelle and used the motor cone for testing. Needs to be a bit wider

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Mar 12, 2013, 04:20 PM
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Finally integrated! Running on 100krpm+ I added some ventilation holes
Mar 12, 2013, 05:09 PM
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Giddyup! Looking good there Chris.
Mar 12, 2013, 07:59 PM
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Now that's what you call MICRO!!! Nice touch with the Leggo figure.
Mar 15, 2013, 10:56 AM
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First measurement


Voltage: 4.1V
Current: .55A
RPM: 103k
Thrust: 1.3g

That feels pretty good already, the airstream is focused impressively. For a target weight of 3g, this seems pretty close. Unfortunately, I will have to go with a 30mA cell to achieve these currents, which raises the total weight to about 4g. Anyway, for the very first test without any optimization, I am pretty confident that I can make the squall fly.

I did a little mistake in the end. While running fully loaded, I touched the esc to check the temperatur, and I must have pushed a motor terminal to the supply line. The result was a motor stall and the coil was powered for a couple of seconds without the rotor moving. It finally started smoking. The controller is still fine, but the motor now runs around 90krpm. Probably the magnet got partially demagnetized. The esc seems to be indestructible. This new bridge protects itself. I even had a motor lead connected to supply initially. No problem for the esc. Over temp and over current protection. For the first time, the motor dies before the esc I need to figure out why the code can produce a stall. Even if it happens, the coil should be switched off, so no motor killing can take place that way. I think this is what some of you (Dan) experienced as well with my controller. I also figured that if the motor isn't running freely, the stall appears around 1/4 to 1/2 throttle, also what Dan reported. A shorted winding could probably cause this, in my case it was the CA distributed into the bushings after overheating. I got it to run freely again and than it ran fine with a bit reduced rpm. So if you experience stalls like Dan, there seems to be a relation to the motor. I will look into this and try to improve the performance. I am quite happy though with the current results. Never thought I could push more than 500mA into such a small motor. Also, I need to compare the performance with the first motor, which has a 3mm magnet instead of 2.5mm. I have the impression, that the reduced magnet size leads to a dramatically increased motor current at comparable rpms. The thrust is also much different, so I need to use the same fan for comparison. It could also be related to the aerodynamics of the new fan.

Chris


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