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Feb 17, 2013, 02:52 PM
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I still have 2 guardians still in the package. After reading all this technical stuff I have figured the guardian just isn't for me. I will be selling both my units in the classified in the forum at a greatly reduced cost. These Gaurdians just are not made for the simple man to use.
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Feb 17, 2013, 02:57 PM
Michael

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That is a shame. I wish I could help. I now own seven units and had two crashes, initially, 'til I figured it out. Now, they work great and the forum has caught up (I was an early adopter, unfortunately.)

If you are intent on selling, what is your asking price for one or both?

If you would like some personal help, then I would be glad to chat with you about my straightforward setup (now that I have learned the hard way.) The recent "manual" for laymen is a good start. You might want to try that before selling.

Thank you.

Michael
Feb 17, 2013, 03:06 PM
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Feb 17, 2013, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Wizzard033
Hello Bill or any with knowledge, I was wondering if the "Eagletree" products on the HK website were genuine? If not I plan to campaign against all things Hobby King as I and others are sick of the Chineese ripping off everyone's ideas and making enormous profits from it.

Thank you for your help and outstanding service!

They are listed on their website as a dealer, so I would assume they are genuine products
Feb 17, 2013, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Busher
They are listed on their website as a dealer, so I would assume they are genuine products
Besides being listed as a dealer at the Eagletree website, I noticed that HobbyKing's price for a Guardian 2D/3D is about the same as some other dealers (possibly more after throwing in shipping).

HobbyKing's price is: $63.74
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...tabilizer.html

Towerhobbie's price is: $65.99
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXCUCV&P=ML

HobbyKing does sell other stabilization units that are a good deal less expensive, but they are sold under other names (like the "orange" stabilizer) and often do not have the 2D mode.
Feb 17, 2013, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by CurrentDude
Here is my version of "Jargon Buster" manual for installing Eagle Tree Guardian Stabiliser AKA a virtual "Autopilot"

Grateful to JayJ and Crona44

Happy flying

Cheers
Shouldn't there be a step when setting it up called "Set trim and level flight".
Feb 17, 2013, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by goldsworthy
I still have 2 guardians still in the package. After reading all this technical stuff I have figured the guardian just isn't for me. I will be selling both my units in the classified in the forum at a greatly reduced cost. These Gaurdians just are not made for the simple man to use.
Sorry to hear you're disappointed with Guardian. Is there any way we could persuade you to have a second go?

I'd take JayY's offer - he can really help you.

I've also posted a note today (# 3176) simplifying step by step way installing a Guardian in a model and successfully flying it - please have a read through and see if it helps you any way. If I were a betting person, then I'd bet that once you go through the steep learning curve, you'd simply love a Guardian..

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Shouldn't there be a step when setting it up called "Set trim and level flight".
I think I understand your point. Just a few min ago I posted a second draft where I included that point but I must have corrected it in the temporary file so it has disappeared in the cyber space. My 1 hour work gone in and now nothing to show for. Never mind, I'll redraft it and post it again.

Cheers
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Feb 17, 2013, 05:43 PM
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Downloaded and reading this morning with coffee ....Thanks a million CurrentDude!

You're welcome.

Hope coffee tasted good .

Cheers
Feb 17, 2013, 06:32 PM
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When testing the deflection of the surfaces in the setup stage to see if they are going in the correct direction, why doesn't the rudder and elevator move very far? I stand the plane on its nose and give it a 90 degree turn and the elevator and rudder barely move.
Feb 17, 2013, 06:45 PM
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Feb 17, 2013, 07:13 PM
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When testing the deflection of the surfaces in the setup stage to see if they are going in the correct direction, why doesn't the rudder and elevator move very far? I stand the plane on its nose and give it a 90 degree turn and the elevator and rudder barely move.
I think this has something to do with the fact the guardian has a built in accelerometer. In practice (in the air) they deflect much further when needed.
Feb 17, 2013, 07:53 PM
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I think this has something to do with the fact the guardian has a built in accelerometer. In practice (in the air) they deflect much further when needed.
Thanks, the more I know about the G the better.
Feb 17, 2013, 09:59 PM
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... Flying-llama has not specifically offered to help, but is very knowledgeable and has been generous with help on this thread.
Thanks!
One note on my experiences (or lack of): I have not actually flown with the Guardian yet (I have yet to build the plane it is for), though I have played with it a lot on the ground and do fly a quadcopter with gyros that have the equivalent of 3D rate mode.

I am also used to reading thick manuals
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Feb 17, 2013, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by sinowace
When testing the deflection of the surfaces in the setup stage to see if they are going in the correct direction, why doesn't the rudder and elevator move very far? I stand the plane on its nose and give it a 90 degree turn and the elevator and rudder barely move.
I found that I needed to turn up the gains all the way to make it easier for me to see the deflections.
Also, in 3D rate mode, one only sees deflections while the plane is actually rotating in the appropriate direction.
For rudder, 3D head-hold mode is easier to see any deflection: the rudder remains deflected until you move the airplane back to original orientation.
For elevator, for similar reasons, 3D head-hold mode or 2D mode are easier to see deflections
Feb 18, 2013, 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Busher
They are listed on their website as a dealer, so I would assume they are genuine products
Awesome I hadn't seen the dealer list I just didn't want to purchase from them unless ET was getting there piece

Thank you!


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