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Jul 23, 2012, 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Park_aviator
Cheap and easy night flying = Success!

Put a head lamp (Idk what it's called) on and you can fly The flash from the camera lit up a lot too!
Now why didn't I think of that !!!
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Jul 23, 2012, 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by skarface
order a gas one all you would need is exstesions for the motor.
It's not really the same, as the cowling is different, and the canopy/hatch does not go as far forward, so therefore, it is more difficult to strap the batteries down. It's not impossible, just harder...

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Jul 23, 2012, 02:34 AM
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It's not really the same, as the cowling is different, and the canopy/hatch does not go as far forward, so therefore, it is more difficult to strap the batteries down. It's not impossible, just harder...

SteveT
I know just talking and throwing out an idea that I am sure he already knew.
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Jul 23, 2012, 06:27 AM
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The other old saying goes, "Ya gotta be smarter than the tool you're working with"

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LOL I say that all the time. I just wonder if it still applies if you are the only tool (ie buffoon, numbskull, nimwit, ect., ect.) doing the work?

Another I use quite often "You only have to be 10% smarter than what ever it is you are working on."
Jul 23, 2012, 09:23 AM
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ok my epp extra just isnt doing the job of "3d flying" so i need a 3dhs balsa airframe. wich 3D's best? the 41 edge, 42 slick, 46 yak, 47 extra or the 48 edge? i really want a hardcore 3d plane to huck around so wich is best?
Jul 23, 2012, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by cale10
ok my epp extra just isnt doing the job of "3d flying" so i need a 3dhs balsa airframe. wich 3D's best? the 41 edge, 42 slick, 46 yak, 47 extra or the 48 edge? i really want a hardcore 3d plane to huck around so wich is best?
What is the EPP extra lacking in 3d flying?


I've only had the 41'' and 47'' of the ones listed and i have to recommend the 47''. It feels like a very well rounded airframe. Just make sure to get the 130 omega not the 103
Jul 23, 2012, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by cale10
ok my epp extra just isnt doing the job of "3d flying" so i need a 3dhs balsa airframe. wich 3D's best? the 41 edge, 42 slick, 46 yak, 47 extra or the 48 edge? i really want a hardcore 3d plane to huck around so wich is best?
I've heard the 47 shp is really good.
Jul 23, 2012, 09:47 AM
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What is the EPP extra lacking in 3d flying?


I've only had the 41'' and 47'' of the ones listed and i have to recommend the 47''. It feels like a very well rounded airframe. Just make sure to get the 130 omega not the 103
it doesnt fly at full speed. the airframe flexes.
Jul 23, 2012, 09:49 AM
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it doesnt fly at full speed. the airframe flexes.
Full speed 3D ey? Interesting...


The only thing I found I can't get my 48 Extra to do is pop tops. I'm thinking the large flat sides just kill that.
Jul 23, 2012, 10:56 AM
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48 Edge is hands down the best 3D ship you listed, followed closely by the SHP. If you are learning, i would go with the Edge since it has wire LG and will not break where as the Extra has carbon gear and is also a bit more expensive.
Jul 23, 2012, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by FireyFate
Full speed 3D ey? Interesting...
Indeed. Here I was, thinking that 3D flight was post-stall, slow and low, hanging on the prop kind of stuff. I never knew it involved high speed maneuvers with the wings generating lift. This must be that newfangled 3D that all the kids are doing these days.

Seriously though... high speed aerobatics and 3D flight are not the same. The EPP Extra is a fine 3D aircraft and loves to be flown in such a fashion. It is not a high speed aerobat capable of handling crankshafts, pop-tops and other violent maneuvers over and over again. It's still a foam plane for Pete's sake!
Jul 23, 2012, 12:06 PM
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it doesnt fly at full speed. the airframe flexes.
Huh?

I fly WOT all the time with mine. I will say it doesn't tumble like a balsa plane with all that surface area, but full speed is not a problem. That flexing you see may be flexing of the rubber bands holding the wings together. I use thin zip ties on my wings - no flexing and will probably break in a hard enough crash (haven't tested this yet, though).
Jul 23, 2012, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Jboy90277
Huh?

I fly WOT all the time with mine. I will say it doesn't tumble like a balsa plane with all that surface area, but full speed is not a problem. That flexing you see may be flexing of the rubber bands holding the wings together. I use thin zip ties on my wings - no flexing and will probably break in a hard enough crash (haven't tested this yet, though).
when I fly WOT i roll with the alirons and it just doesnt seem to roll as much. i use zip ties too. but i still love the plane and it flys great with low speed 3d.
Jul 23, 2012, 12:37 PM
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when I fly WOT i roll with the alirons and it just doesnt seem to roll as much. i use zip ties too. but i still love the plane and it flys great with low speed 3d.
There are a lot of flat surfaces that want to keep the plane from rolling (tail, fuse, wing). At WOT, their combined effect is probably more difficult to overcome with the ailerons. I find with my not so great flying that my plane rolls faster when I'm trying to do rollers at a moderate speed (to keep my stick movements in sync with the roll rate) - eventually it starts rolling too fast and I fall behind and have to bail.

Probably easier to show you what I mean:
3DHS 48" EPP Extra 330SC - Windy Day (5 min 38 sec)
Jul 23, 2012, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SD One.
Indeed. Here I was, thinking that 3D flight was post-stall, slow and low, hanging on the prop kind of stuff. I never knew it involved high speed maneuvers with the wings generating lift. This must be that newfangled 3D that all the kids are doing these days.

Seriously though... high speed aerobatics and 3D flight are not the same. The EPP Extra is a fine 3D aircraft and loves to be flown in such a fashion. It is not a high speed aerobat capable of handling crankshafts, pop-tops and other violent maneuvers over and over again. It's still a foam plane for Pete's sake!
+1 I agree 100% I guess 3d turned into wot for the whole flight


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