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Jan 19, 2012, 10:32 PM
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BH Fieseler Fi-156C Storch 112'' ARF


A new Giant WWII Luftwaffe Feisler Fi-156C Storch sport scale ARF is now available at HobbyPeople. I have one inbound and expect FedEx to have it at my hangar door next Thursday, 26 Jan 2012. When it arrives, I'll do a box opening series of pics and comments.

You can find this big brute at: http://www.hobbypeople.net/index.php...h-112-arf.html

I plan to electrocute my Storch and hope that the resident seniors in this area will be able to assist me in selecting the right power train. I used to be an avid and active 1/4 and 1/5 scale warbird pilot with glow and gas engines, but have no first hand experience with big e-powered aircraft. I do have several years of e-power scale heli experience so the fundamentals are within my grasp. Most of my 10K+ posts are related to product reviews and build threads for e-helis.

Here's the" hype and type" from HobbyPeople's product page:

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Product Description
BH Fieseler Fi-156C Storch 112'' ARF
GIANT SCALE
The Fieseler Fi156C Storch from BH Models is truly a GIANT. Its 112" wing span makes it the biggest scale airplane in the BH line today. The construction is all wood and the finish is printed providing scale detailing.
BH set out to make large scale modeling fun and easy. This Big bird is an ARF (almost ready to fly) and features factory installed scale hinging, two piece plug in wing, fiberglass factory painted cowl and all the right hardware (much of it custom made).
The Storch is not the most common WWII aircraft, but in full size it was an amazing performer. The model is similar. Short field performance is shocking and it just looks cool with all that scale hinging and control surface positions.
Look close at the finish and you'll see panel lines and detailed weathering along with a matching cowl most manufacturers cannot compare to, both in quality or color-matching.
Tired of flying what everyone else has? Get a BIG Storch and be THE talk of the field.
Specifications
• Wingspan: 2,850 mm (112,20 in.)
• Length: 1,910 mm (75,20 in.)
• Weight: 8.1 kg (17.82 lbs.)
• Radio: 06 channels.
• Servo: 08 servos.
• Engine: 35 cc Gas(FUJI IMVAC).
STAINLESS STEEL OLEO STRUTS LANDING GEAR. ALL BALSA - PLY WOOD CONSTRUCTION. COVERED WITH PVC PRINTING.
Some think that this is an ugly aircraft, but it was the first truly exceptional STOL airframe. I love the Storch and also the Wilga PZL-104 STOL because of their wonderful functional designs. I am working on giant ARF versions of both.

Cheers - Boyd
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Jan 20, 2012, 12:48 PM
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VQ warbirds has it also.
http://www.vqwarbirds.com/product_in...5f65f6fb926a25
And a Cockpit kit!
http://www.vqwarbirds.com/product_in...5f65f6fb926a25
Jan 20, 2012, 01:11 PM
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If you are not opposed to Turnigy motors there are some new ones to chose from.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...Y_RotoMax.html
Jan 20, 2012, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by TripleW
VQ warbirds has it also............................
And a Cockpit kit!
http://www.vqwarbirds.com/product_in...5f65f6fb926a25
This cockpit kit is for the now defunct ESM Feisler Storch 89" WS kit and will not fit the BH 112" Storch. The BH Storch comes with a pilot and passenger figure, but they leave a lot to be desired from what I see in the pics. I will be checking to see if my 12" WWII German AF figures will suit when I get the plane.

Cheers - Boyd
Jan 20, 2012, 02:19 PM
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I'm tuned into this build.

I've seen some amazing STO runs from this bird (1:1) scale.. I should say staggering!.

Dave.
Jan 20, 2012, 02:43 PM
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Fi-156C to electric


Och, the envy... I want this bird.

This being said - here are the considerations. You need (nominally) 1800W to lift an 18lb bird in scale/trainer flight mode (i.e. you are NOT going to turn this into an ersaz 3D machine).

1800W is NOT alot and you MOST DEFINITELY do not need RotoMax motors.

I opened the Fuji Imvac engine specs and (UGH, what a ghastly motor - heavy and low power) its power output (2HP nominal) more or less tallies (2HP is roughly 1500W).

The engine weighs 6lb (minus fuel). Let's say you are carrying another 2 pounds fuel.

So your "free weight" for setup is 8.5 pounds more or less (engine, motor, tank, tubing, throttle servo).

As I said - you need 1800W.

Let's use quality components (i'll write up a less quality setup later):

Hyperion 4025-16 Motor - http://www.allerc.com/hyperion-zs402...or-p-4600.html

Hyperion Atlas 12S 90A OPTO - http://www.allerc.com/hyperion-atlas...ec-p-5136.html

This will give you 2KW sustained power input to the motor with a resonable current (you will need to use 8S1P or 2x4S1P power packs. Motor + ESC weigh 1.5lb, leaving you with a tremendous amount of free weight for batteries.

However, this setup will set you back by some $380 BEFORE batteries!!!!

Batteries - 4S1P 5A nano-tech in pairs - http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=20676

Each battery weighs 1.25lb - so you can be in the air something like a month :-) - joking... Mostly :-)... 3 pairs of batteries weigh 7.5lb, motor+esc weigh 1.5 lb... You CAN be in the air something akin to a month.

Each battery pair will cost you plus/minus $85 in the US.

A cheaper setup is in a separate message
Jan 20, 2012, 02:54 PM
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Cheaper setup -

Same batteries :-). 2 packs in series of 4S1P 5A and THEN each combo-pack in parallel with up to two more same-sized packs.

Motor: Turnigy SK3 5065-275 - http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...ner_Motor.html

ESC Turnigy Sentilon 100A - http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...ESC_Ver4_.html

This will set you back some $150....
Jan 20, 2012, 02:55 PM
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And one more thing


In both set-ups - you WILL need a separate Rx battery.
Jan 20, 2012, 03:14 PM
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Mixerfix do you have firsthand knowledge with the Rotomax motors?
Jan 20, 2012, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoverup
This cockpit kit is for the now defunct ESM Feisler Storch 89" WS kit and will not fit the BH 112" Storch. The BH Storch comes with a pilot and passenger figure, but they leave a lot to be desired from what I see in the pics. I will be checking to see if my 12" WWII German AF figures will suit when I get the plane.

Cheers - Boyd
Sorry about that.
Jan 20, 2012, 03:59 PM
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I like this plane! Which Wilga do you have? I have my eye on the Ecom Wilga from Troybuilt. I too like ugly planes - and dogs

Harry
Jan 20, 2012, 04:46 PM
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I like this plane! Which Wilga do you have? I have my eye on the Ecom Wilga from Troybuilt. I too like ugly planes - and dogs

Harry
That's the one Harry. Also a very cool ARF STOL.

Link: https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...0#post20265247

Cheers - Boyd
Jan 20, 2012, 04:58 PM
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Boyd, I have been following that thread. I was waiting for one of them to maiden and give some feedback on the flight characteristics and how the power system worked. Thanks for the link anyway.

Harry
Jan 20, 2012, 05:01 PM
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Mixerfix do you have firsthand knowledge with the Rotomax motors?
I'm curious to know also.
1st, I thought it was because the Rotonmax puts out too much watts for this model, but the 1.20 Rotomax is just shy of 2000watts, 50 or so watts less than the turnigy SK3 you recommended, so that can't be the reason, right?

Cheers,
Peter


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