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Anyone added or modded there MQX with one of the cool micro FC boards like the bee brain or similar FC. I got some Banggood motors as replacements. Will need to swap out the small connectors though. |
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These Delrin gears are more than adequate.
They will hold even better than brass ones. As long as the brass pinions of the old motorss aren't eaten up too much, you still can hotswap these as described above. |
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I am going to save that link if I start flying my MQX/180qx again. On another note I found this quad to be a good platform for the 808 keychain camera as it goes slow enough for good video and not crazy fast as the quad racers. MMW makes a fast version and a faster version of these motors. All you have to do is change the connectors over to the stock ones and follow their wiring scheme.
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Yup! I haven't flown my MQx in a while but I did recently put the board in an Alias as an experiment. I like the durability of the Alias (we race them and run into all sorts of stuff) but hate the extreme expo of the Alias transmitter / control board.
The retrofit (minus lights) was very easy. After unsoldering the existing motor connectors, Alias style motor connectors dropped right into the holes with a small amount of bending. Unless you want to run in "+" mode, the MQx board needs to be mounted 45 degrees off from the Alias board, but that turned out to be easy.... orient it and just sandwich the board between the frame and the frame bottom. The corners stuck out but not enough to be a problem. It flew great and it was fun to fly my Alias with my DX9. But it turned out to have one fatal flaw.... the Alias motors draw a bit more current than the MQx motors and if you punched the throttle, the board would go into OC shutdown. This could be reduced by limiting the throttle to 80% but in a race it would still occasionally shut down and fall from the sky. I eventually put the Alias board back in Paul |
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Still flying my MQX but have gravitated other brushed micro's. MQX is great stable platform to learn on. So mine sit's on the shelf most of the time.
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Just bought mQX - what's the big deal?
Hi everyone. I have a question about the Blade mQX, and this sure looks like the place to ask.
I know this is an old and discontinued quad going back to 2012, but any beginner doing his research will run across mentions of this one. Obviously, many many people have one and there's a large body of support, both replacement parts and shared knowledge like this forum. Well, yesterday I found one on Craigslist. Somebody bought one or got one as a gift, couldn't fly it so they put it back in the box. Here it is years later, all complete and brand new (except for the two or three attempted flights), so having read so much about it, I had to just go buy it. I feel like I overpaid at $60, but I don't know that yet. I've charged the battery and flown it. My question: What's supposed to be the big deal, and what am I looking for out of this little thing? I can already fly my Symas and Hubsans, everything on high mode and I'm getting pretty good. I fly in the park nearly every nice day now, and I'm working my way up to a Bugs 3. Not expert, but certainly not really a beginner either. The couple of short flights of the mQX in my backyard though, I found it to be extremely difficult to fly, and even on low, it seems VERY twitchy and TOO responsive. I'm sure I could master the flight characteristics, but I don't know that I can move my thumbs in such small amounts to keep this under control. It seems like if I cough or sneeze, I'm going to send this thing into the ground. It seems like it will be very fast once I get it out into an open area, but beyond that I found it downright difficult to fly. And they marketed this as a beginners drone, with advanced stability features, but I don't see it. The stabilization system seems to be 3-axis rather than "6-axis" (no accelerometers) and I can definitely tell the difference from my Syma X5C and X8C, and my Hubsan H107L. Banked turns were completely different and I crashed it a couple times. Is this a good thing? Is this the next thing I need to learn in order to be a hotshot pilot, and these 6-axis acceleromoter-enabled gyros are only a crutch? Or is this thing just obsolete, and flight control boards and programming are just better now? I totally get it that it's got 820 motors driving large geared props, on an ultra lightweight frame so the power-to-weight ratio is insanely high for a small brushed quad. But other than that, it almost seems like it would fly better if I replaced the board with a Syma X5C-1 board and just fly it with my X8C controller. What would I lose if I did that? Would I destroy the very soul of this quad, or merely update a decent little chassis with a more modern flight board? I would also be thinking a JJ1000 board, something like that. Or will learning to fly this as it is now really develop better flying skills? I'm going to take it out to the park today and see what it's going to do (along with my Syma X5C-1 for comparison), but what am I supposed to experience that will make me appreciate all the love this thing gets? |
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Welcome at the world of acro mode.
As you already suspected. You have to unlearn all habits you aquiredwhile doing the babysitter horizon flights with the other toys. Time to learn to fly yourself, not to be flown by the FC. And the mQx still is a good learning tool to do so. I'm not sure what TX you got with the mQX - but if possible, turn down the rates to make it not unnecessary hard. You still can do a FC swap if you can't manage rate mode. Nothing wrong there. At least it is YOUR hobby. Good Luck! -mike- |
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THIS......Plus everything Mike said. It's a great little quad to learn "acro mode" on. Not to fast and generally pretty dosile. It doesn't have all the self leveling stuff the newer quads do. Dial in some expo if your transmitter allows, and turn the rates down. Good luck and happy flyin!
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How to learn acro after being used to the self leveling training wheels for too long.... In the Tx turn the max throttle down to about 70%. You don't need more than that. Turn the pitch and roll down to about 50-60%. With that you -can't- turn fast, so you need a bigger space to fly, about a baseball infield's worth. There's much less chance of breaking anything when crashing at lower angles. And you'll have more -time- to think about what your fingers should do while watching the thing fly. Full tilt boogie REQUIRES pure reflex -- there's NO TIME to think about anything. There's a split second -just- before you crash when you realise 'I got it! I got it! I DON'T got it!!!' In that last split second, kill the throttle. It's hard to learn but helps avoid more severe damage. There's a balance where full (limited) throttle and full forward pitch will fly level, so adjust the pitch limiter between flights. Yes, you need to fly on all for stick motions all the time. That you -can't- turn hard will help you get more used to that. But as I said it takes more room to fly. It gets enough further out that orange or yello props on the front or real help a LOT. Those white props serve no purpose because both black and white blur to grey when spinning. When you can comfortable and easily do circles and fig-8s in both directions at full throttle/pitch, -gradually- turn up the expo and max throttle. Only 3% at a time at first, later 5% per step. Part of it depends on how old you are and how much games experience you have. Younger ppl learn reflexes MUCH faster. I started when I was about 53 and it took MONTHS to get anywhere NEAR comfortable. And I'd already had a few years fixed wing experience, but they're not very much related to rotaries. It was worth the wait. With THAT experience I did the same learning process with a 355 hottie rod. Started slow and non-agile, and gradually turned up the heat. Nobody in F1 auto racing jumped into a car and started zooming around. They started as kids with go karts and worked they way up the ladder. MQX is a tiny-tiny hot rod in the right hands. So turn down the top end capability and it's much easier to learn. |
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That's for OEM motors.
One can get away easily for much less. 10pc pack of 11T Delrin gears 2,49 USD 4 pack of quality 8520 coreless motors ~ 10 USD learn to splice the OEM connectors in - priceless. That said - the mQX doesn't eat motors like these newer direct drive brushed toycopters. So you most probably won't need any replacements, as long as you don't burn them by stalling them powered. One drawback: It's getting hard to source replacement props for a decent price. The better GWS EP5443 are rare, too. Did I say I still fly my mQX occasionally? It's the first toy I give someone interested to try. |
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HK has a -wrong- -size- motor touted as replacement for MQX and Inductrix, when those quads clearly take different size motors. They weren't very interested when I spoke with them in chat maybe a year ago. And a year before that. So I got the one that was the right physical size, without them mentioning what they were meant for. The soldering was an easy task for me. They exploded 3 motor ports on my brick the first time I fired (literally) it up. I just checked, and they don't have the 8.5mm listed any more. Only the '6mm MQX replacement.'
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