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Dec 26, 2011, 03:47 PM
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Suggestions for next plane after Champ?

I didn't have trouble flying the Champ and got really better flying it. What would be the next step up? I'm considering getting a full size or even a micro again. I would just like to get a plane where the building process isn't complicated and that's ready to fly.
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Dec 26, 2011, 05:48 PM
If in doubt, add accelerant
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The T-28, wither Ultra Micro or Standard size are normally considered the best 2nd planes. Both have similar handling characteristics, can be bound to your Champ Transmitter and are an excellent stable plane to learn ailerons
Dec 26, 2011, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by RPTheLefty
I didn't have trouble flying the Champ and got really better flying it. What would be the next step up? I'm considering getting a full size or even a micro again. I would just like to get a plane where the building process isn't complicated and that's ready to fly.
If you haven't already I recommend getting something like a Spectrum DX6i and then deciding on which plane to get. The DX6i handles up to 10 different planes with each having numerous adjustments.
You then can pick a "Plug and play" plane and usually only need a new Rx.
Also you'll need a decent battery charger like a Thunder AC6.
Dec 27, 2011, 01:07 PM
Sure, I can fly after sunset!?

Super Cub with Floats

If you are looking for a larger EASY second plane, you might consider the HZ Super Cub.

True, it is also a good FIRST plane (it was mine) but it is SIMPLE to fly, especially with the rudder connected to the aileron channel.

Add floats and it will be a LOT of fun (and a bit more challenging) to fly off water. It also flies FANTASTICALLY off of snow. I also own a PZ Radian and a PZ SE5a. But, I never get tired of flying my Super Cub with floats.

If you're looking for something bigger, a lot of people are happy with an Apprentice. It is larger than the Super Cub, and has ailerons. Like the SC, it can be fitted with floats too. I have no personal experience with this plane to share with you though.

Happy Flying!
Dec 27, 2011, 01:59 PM
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T-28: big or little
Dec 27, 2011, 02:05 PM
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I have an Apprentice, and am very impressed. It flies great and can be very docile on low rates. Once you have the basics, it flies inverted and does basic aerobatics better than most high wing planes. It is also tough, and all parts are available and decently priced.

If I were to do it over again, though, I'd get the plug and play instead of the RTF, and a DX7 or 8, some Gens Ace batteries, and a 4 bank charger right off the bat.

The DX5 that comes with the RTF has no model memory, so once you get another plane you would be wanting a computer radio anyway. If it is something capable of 3d you would want adjustable expo and rates, too.
Dec 28, 2011, 01:53 AM
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Airfield or the FMS Sky Trainer (Cessna 182).

I made the same transition as you are about to do. I flew my champ until I was bored with it, and picked the Airfield Sky Trainer from (you can get the FMS with "N" number from This plane is easy to fly with allot of the same characteristics as the champ; accept way bigger, with a 55.5 inch wing span and steerable nose gear. She has plenty of power to pull out of scary moments, and is surprisingly agile. The new version comes with lights and flaps; 5 and 6 channel, or comes basic 4 channel. She accepts pilot input well, has a ultra low stall speed (she loves to float down during landing). with more rc stores carrying these planes the parts are becoming more accessible. It comes in RTF, ARF, and KIT form. There is a thread here on this forum that is dedicated to these planes only with lots of videos, pictures, and people willing to help with any further questions you may or may not have. What ever you choose just remember to have fun!

Here is one of my first flights with mine this was all factory, before I removed the wheel pants, and upgraded to larger tires (the wheel pants hang up on grass).
Airfield Sky Trainer 2nd day out almost crashed her (2 min 5 sec)
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Dec 28, 2011, 10:48 PM
Too much to do not enough time
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Parkzone UM T-28 or P-51 might be good choices. I actually flew a P-51 as my first plane (though I did have sim time) and it's a blast. It's stable and floaty, yet it can do some aerobatics and other fun stuff to make your flights even more fun. That's my personal recommendation, but most of the above choices are probably solid ideas.
Dec 29, 2011, 06:15 PM
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I think you could do worse than a radian or a radian pro- different pace, learn some new skills.You'll need a pretty big space to fly though, as they float in.
Dec 30, 2011, 04:10 AM
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Thanks for the replies. Any more full-size recommendations?
Dec 30, 2011, 04:16 AM
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Do you have a simulator? If not, they can be worth while.
Dec 30, 2011, 07:44 AM
If in doubt, add accelerant
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Stinson reliant is a great flier - flies like it's on rails and lands at a walking pace. Similar flight characteristics to the T-28.
Jan 01, 2012, 04:56 PM
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I don't have a sim but I'm planning on getting one tomorrow. Where do I find the Stinson?

I decided to not go with a UM again because the winds are hardly ever calm where I live.
Jan 04, 2012, 12:55 AM
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local hobby shop or horizon hobby website. i would go get a better transmitter than the one that came with the champ. Maybe you can get the phoenix flight sim with the dx5e. I have a dx6i and love it but 10 models fills up faster than you think once you start getting new models all the time. phoenix also has the t-28 and stinson on it so you can try them out along with many other planes. The sim may help you answer what plane you like personally.
Jan 04, 2012, 01:14 AM
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you can download the clearview sim; it is the sim I use, it has all of the popular models in it, worked great for me. I bought a sim with a wired TX but it would not run on windows 7 so i use the TX that cam with that sim on clearview. I hear some people use the XBOX and PS3 controllers for TX on clearview do not know how well it works but it is an option.

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