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Mar 16, 2012, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by steve5
Thank you for the valuable information. Its a good thing these cams are rather inexpensive. How often do they upgrade these cameras?
Well, the #16 has been through about a dozen firmware tweaks since I got one of the first ones out of the box. Of course, many of versions were for testing and revamping, so there have only been a few to be officially release, with one I may post here in the next day or so. The #11from the same developer went through similar process implementing many things users asked for. No other camera developer of these inexpensive cameras has been so responsive!
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Mar 16, 2012, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ridgewalker
My # 16 is still working great!
No issues with the 4 gig class 4 Kingston card.

Here is a short clip buzzing around the park with the Super Cub....
#16 was velcroed to the flight cam and has survived a handful of landings like in the video.

http://youtu.be/lQ06_HYxbug


Ridgewalker
Well I hope the strange color effects in the video were added by you intentionally with an editor or by the hosting site during their re-encoding, and not something the camera is doing on it's own! Otherwise, the camera hasn't survived those hard landings quite as well as it might have?

I just checked, and it's not April 1st yet, so that's not it!
Mar 16, 2012, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Frank
Well, the #16 has been through about a dozen firmware tweaks since I got one of the first ones out of the box. Of course, many of versions were for testing and revamping, so there have only been a few to be officially release, with one I may post here in the next day or so. The #11from the same developer went through similar process implementing many things users asked for. No other camera developer of these inexpensive cameras has been so responsive!
Yes, I find the attention that this little camera gets from the developer amazing. This is very interesting thread to follow.
Mar 16, 2012, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by downhill
slowly I believe, it lies not in the cards but in the kamera. When the developer wants to bring out a new firmware to solve all these problems.
If that were the case, I'd expect to see more problems in the same brand line, or same speed class, or same capacity. It's scattered all over the place, and recording to a card requires two way comunication between card and host. So I think it's more than just camera firmware alone. Could be timing issues that can vary with clock crystal accuracy and temperature variations.
Mar 16, 2012, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by syzygyQ
Yeah, 4gb and 8gb class four Kingston chips are great.

They're both been performing like champs in my #16. No issues, and clearly support the data throughput demands of the #16. Never a jitter, never a snag.
My 16GB CL4 Kingston also works fine.
Mar 16, 2012, 03:13 PM
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Mar 16, 2012, 03:14 PM
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I just wanted to change the config file of the #16. But the #16 won't be recognized by my laptop. It said "unknown usb device". Under Linux and Win7 I'm unable to access the camera. Also the webcam mode won't work.

I flashed the 0.18v firmware again and this doesn't solve the problem. Also I resettet the cam with the reset button. But nothing happens.

Can someone help me? Video recording is still working, I can record and read the files directly from the sd card. But that's annoying.
Mar 16, 2012, 03:14 PM
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In my opinion the shop assistant should be able to name cards which function anyway with the camera
Mar 16, 2012, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Ultrazauberer
I just wanted to change the config file of the #16. But the #16 won't be recognized by my laptop. It said "unknown usb device". Under Linux and Win7 I'm unable to access the camera. Also the webcam mode won't work.

I flashed the 0.18v firmware again and this doesn't solve the problem. Also I resettet the cam with the reset button. But nothing happens.

Can someone help me? Video recording is still working, I can record and read the files directly from the sd card. But that's annoying.
The most probably cause is your USB cable. Try a different one, or even two or three! If that doesn't help, uninstall the USB Mass Storage Device in Device Manager (in Windows), but if Webcam doesn't work it's almost certainly a cable problem, or you have damaged the mini USB socket on your camera!
Mar 16, 2012, 04:38 PM
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Well, I finally got my 16 today and like a fool I couldnt be happy with the 17 firmware. Ive go to work in a few so forgive me. I know others have had similar issues and ive searched but didnt find anything that helped me. Everything was working fine and i wanted to update the FW. I downloaded the 18 MOV file and extracted it to my desktop. I followed the instructions to update and everything seemed to be going smoothly until the point where I needed to let go of the button when the flashing yellow light started. I saw the flashing yellow light and let go right away. The fast flashing yellow lasted for only 1 or 2 seconds and then a solid yellow light came on for another few seconds, but there was no other flashing lights after that. I wasnt sure if it worked or not so i went forward and deleted the FW file from the card. I originally tried with the back door method but the computer wont recognize the camera anymore so I pulled the card out and put it in my laptop with a card reader. I deleted the FW file and it still wont work. I went back and deleted all the files on the card with the laptop and put the card back in the camera and it still wont work.

As it stands right now the cameras green light turns on when plugged into my computer. I can turn the camera on and the red light stays on, but I cannot change between photo and video mode ( it stays on red the whole time no matter what I do). I can turn it off and it will just go red again when I turn it back on. I took out the card and turned it on and the camera wont even switch to the yellow light signally there is no card, it simply stays solid red.

I tried resetting it multiple times but it doesnt do anything either. Im sorry for the crappy writing and lack of punctuation in this post but like I said ive gotta get to work and Im a little on edge right now. Sorry if this is a simple fix or something, Ive read over most of the thread and didnt find anything but its possible i missed something. Ill add more info later when Im home.

thanks for any help!
Mar 16, 2012, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Isoprop
He mentioned that he tried everything, and I can well believe it.

There are now FIVE known Sandisk 16GB Class 4 which have been reported to have this problem so it can't be just chance or fake cards - unless all cards were bought from the same seller...

Since no other cards have been reported to do this, I conclude this must be a manufacturing defect and Sandisk should recall these cards or risk ruining their name! I would be interested if all cards are replaced by warranty - could be a bit difficult if he sends all three in together. And what about the other two users? Did they get their cards replaced - or were they indeed fakes?
Hi, sorry to only answer now, yes: I tried many ways of formatting; I will keep trying for a little bit if I have other ideas. I have a question though. My cards were all formatted "in camera". Is there a real difference between formatting in-camera and other means, for example Windows 7 ? Could this algorithm be somewhat defective? Has everyone been doing the same or have I "followed the book" too closely???
Thanks everyone.
Mar 16, 2012, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Frank
Well I hope the strange color effects in the video were added by you intentionally with an editor or by the hosting site during their re-encoding, and not something the camera is doing on it's own! Otherwise, the camera hasn't survived those hard landings quite as well as it might have?

I just checked, and it's not April 1st yet, so that's not it!
Yes the strange colors were added intentionally.


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Mar 16, 2012, 05:37 PM
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I received my #16 today and could not be happier.
It takes beautiful videos for the size and price.
My card is a Lexar 8gb class 4.
Once I take some longer videos I will post if it is a good card or not.

The configuration app works great. Takes alot of the hassle away.

Thanks Tom and Iso for all your work on this thread.

Norbert
Last edited by Nerm; Mar 17, 2012 at 06:36 AM.
Mar 16, 2012, 05:41 PM
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My #16 will sometimes just stop recording.


Anyone here have any idea why this might be happening?
I have had this little camera for about 2 weeks now and have been experimenting with different mounts on a couple of my planes. I have made a couple of 10 minute videos with no problem. Now during the last three attemps the camera just stops recording.
Stopped one time after 5 minutes or so, the next video stopped after about three minutes, and then at about 6 minutes.

I updated the firmware to version 18 as soon as I received it. I have a Sandisk card.
Mar 16, 2012, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by wgaba
Anyone here have any idea why this might be happening?
I have had this little camera for about 2 weeks now and have been experimenting with different mounts on a couple of my planes. I have made a couple of 10 minute videos with no problem. Now during the last three attemps the camera just stops recording.
Stopped one time after 5 minutes or so, the next video stopped after about three minutes, and then at about 6 minutes.

I updated the firmware to version 18 as soon as I received it. I have a Sandisk card.
From what I read it might be the memory card you are using. Not sure though.


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