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Sep 29, 2003, 02:57 PM
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Laird Super Solution Build Thread!


OK guys the first 10 kits should be in the hands of builders at this time so thought a consolidated build thread to share ideas and answer questions along with any pics you can submit would be helpful! I will be writing a review on the plane for Bill and will also post progress pics here as I build! Thanks in advance for your input!
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Sep 29, 2003, 03:22 PM
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Ok, a couple small issues have already been noted:

1. There's no 1/16 stringers for the bottom of the fuse sides. The 1/8" by 1/16" laser cut stringers SHOULD subsitute for the 1/16 square.

2. There's no 1/32 balsa sheeting for the kit. My bad. Straight up stupidity on my part.

3. Boxes have been ordered 32" x 6" x 6", which should allow plenty of cushion room for the kit, and anything else someone might order.

4. I hate Kinkos, and won't use them again for the blueprints. I stood there with a ruler in hand checking print size against the plan, and it still appears that the print isn't 100% to size. Again, I hate Kinkos, enough said.

I'm big enough to admit mistakes and make corrections. If you have something constructive to input about the kit, or if you feel that you deserve a partial refund for the lack of about 1.00 in balsa, let me know and I'll make right.

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Sep 29, 2003, 03:31 PM
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Bill are you saying to use the 1/8 X 1/16 instead of buying some 1/16 or am I not understanding!?
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Sep 29, 2003, 04:20 PM
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Exactly. I think the 1/8 x 1/16 can be substituted on the bottom of the fuse, where it calls for 1/16.
Sep 29, 2003, 04:25 PM
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Originally posted by WJ Birmingham
Exactly. I think the 1/8 x 1/16 can be substituted on the bottom of the fuse, where it calls for 1/16.
Thanks Bill!
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Sep 29, 2003, 05:41 PM
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Bill, on the prints since I'm an architect I have some insight on this. When running anything on a diazo process, you're going to get some stretch in one direction (parallel to the direction of feed). Normally it's not an issue, but for something like a plane kit plan, accuracy is very important. There are a few possible solutions:

- Call around and find a print shop that has a flat bed printer. The print paper and tracing are placed flat on a table, so there's no stretch of the print. Not sure if it costs more, I don't think it does, but it might.

- Send the CADD file to the shop and have them plot it direct. Most print shops can plot right to bond, and I don't think it costs anymore than a bond copy (see below, bond copy is slightly more than a bond print).

- Run bond copies instead of prints. In this case they scan the original into memory, then shoot off how ever many copies you want. It's not a process of laying the original over the media like in diazo, so there's no stretch. Bond copies cost a little more than diazo last time I checked, but the price keeps coming down on them.

Good luck!
Sep 29, 2003, 05:46 PM
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Tres,

These were printed from a DWG file that was converted to the "Kinko's File Format".

The paper was fed through a pretty large printer. I wound up using a 103% blow up of the print to get the horizontal scale correct, but come to think of it, I never did check verticle, nor is there a verticle scale to check against.

I'll try contacting several local print shops to see who has a plotter.

Thanks for the advice.

Bill
Sep 29, 2003, 09:18 PM
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You will need to cut the 1/16 x 1/8 in half or make the notches in the fuse formers larger, also make sure to allow clearance for F7 or you will be cutting the 1/16 stringer back a bit, ask me how I know. Got side tracked today or I would have had most of the fuse done. Wife said I had to work on paying jobs, oh well.
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Sep 29, 2003, 09:34 PM
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Fuse Top
Sep 29, 2003, 09:45 PM
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Fuse top at higher res. sorry about the small one.
Sep 29, 2003, 09:46 PM
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Fuse side
Sep 29, 2003, 09:51 PM
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You will also need to sand a little on F9 to make the angle match up to F2 and you will need to make the slot in F2 a little longer toward the bottom, see photo. No big deal, just a little sanding and fitting.
Sep 29, 2003, 10:06 PM
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Say, I have a plane that resembles that!
Sep 29, 2003, 10:29 PM
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Good Progress Jerry! Hopefully my kit will be here tomorrow!
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Sep 29, 2003, 11:30 PM
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I just put the instruction manual up on the site, in case any of the printed pics on my Samsung laser printer didn't come out clear @ 600x600 dpi.

www.parkflyermotors.com/LairdManual.ppt

It's in MS PowerPoint, and you will probably want to do a "Right Click" and "Save As", because with all of it's pics, it's about a 14mb download.

Bill


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