Guillows kit 502, 16.5" span FW-190 conversion *Video added* - Page 9 - RC Groups
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Dec 20, 2011, 06:53 AM
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I'll have a look at the Dumas kits.

I was thinking of building the Guillows kit only because I already have one.
Difference is the Dumas stuff you can actually use the kit where as Guillows the wood is useless and all the parts have to be hand cut out of genuine balsa wood. Maybe the laser cut kits use better wood?

Heck if I'm going to that much trouble might as well enlarge the Comet plan to 1:16 scale and build it instead.

There are plenty of ponds around here, the problem is access. Tampa Bay is wide open, but wouldn't want to risk flying off of saltwater. If the model got dunked it would be ruined.

Maybe after my fun build entry is done I'll look into a Zero build a bit more.

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Jun 05, 2012, 02:36 PM
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I have this very kit in my closet taunting me to convert it for some UMX guts I have, but I was scared that it would be hard to do because it is so tiny. This thread is an inspiration. One of the (stupid) wing micro servos got stuck in full high position on my UMX SBach and it went straight down as it was twirling a couple times a second. There was no way I could save it. Needless to say, the foam is totalled. But the gear is still good, perfect for this FW190. I'd probably use a different servo though.

Did you ever get some video of this little warbird in flight?
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Jun 05, 2012, 03:03 PM
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Nope, never did get any video. We tried with my camera but the result was unusable. There isn't anyone at the field that has the equipment or is there early enough to shoot some vids.

This model is still active. I flew it a couple of weeks ago and had it trimmed out pretty well. One of the guys commented on the small amount of dihedral. I never even noticed that, but he's right it looks out of scale. Not sure how that happened...

To correct the out of scale look some wing surgery was in order. I cut the dihedral joints loose and increased the distance from the tips to the build board from 10mm to 22mm which is about what is called for on the plan. The newly angled wing was fitted to the fillets by doing a lot of careful reshaping of the fillet base with sandpaper.

While it was in the maintenance hangar, I used some Micro-sol on the decals and then gave them a coat of flat clear to seal them. (forgot that step earlier and the decals were starting to lift.)

Flew the model Sunday and the added dihedral helped a lot with stability. I think I have found a good cg and next weekend I'll do some glide tests from altitude to verify. I might be able to remove a bit of the clay from the inside of the cowl and move the battery forward some to lighten the model a bit.

Nov 02, 2012, 12:54 PM
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Time for an update on this model. After flying it a few times i decided it was prone to tip stall due to insufficient airspeed. This could have been easily corrected by changing to a GWS 5x4.3 prop. I really didn't want to give up on the scale prop, so....
The idea started on my micro Hellcat, it had the same pitch speed issue.
I removed the 3 blade prop and twisted in some more pitch. While holding the twist in the blade I heated the blade root with a heat gun. When the plastic got just soft enough for the tension to relax the heat was removed. This added considerable pitch to the prop. The Hellcat flew much better this way and what once was a struggle to stay airborne at full throttle was now cruise at about 3/4 throttle with a bit to spare.

Decided to do the same to the 190 prop. Had to remove the spinner assembly, add pitch and reassemble. What a difference it made in the way the model flies!
Here's a video of the model flown at the Wattfest event a few weeks ago. It was kind of windy but the model did pretty good in the breeze. What I think is cool is it you never realize how small it is until I pick it up at the end!

2012 Wattfest02 (2 min 47 sec)

This flight was done at about 3/4 throttle with little bursts only to pull through a loop or for avoidance maneuvers.

Unfortunately this event also saw the demise of my micro Hellcat. Turned downwind without enough airspeed and the model went into a spin that I could not recover from. R.I.P....

Nov 02, 2012, 02:26 PM
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Nice job Glenn! props to the video taker. Not easy with that size model, Great idea on the "adjustable pitch". That is one great looking butcher bird, sorry about the Hellcat
Nov 02, 2012, 06:26 PM
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Thanks Mark.
The Hellcat snapped into a spin and there was no hope for recovery. It was a problem child from the start. I gave up on it once and stripped the gear out for another model. Decided to give it another go and finally got it flying half way decent, then it reached its expiration date. Oh well, easy come, easy go...
Nov 02, 2012, 07:11 PM
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BYW, long time no see Mark. Where you been buddy?
Everything going OK?
Nov 03, 2012, 08:20 AM
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Great job Glenn, I will remember the pitch modification technique. Thanks.

Nov 03, 2012, 03:46 PM
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Here's a pic of the repitched prop. Didn't add quite as much twist to the 190 prop.
Hellcat prop was the experimental prototype and once I figured out how hot to get the blade roots it was a lot easier to keep the prop symmetrical.
Nov 05, 2012, 02:14 AM
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Nice mod Glenn and nice flying too! – looks like a great flying site you have there.
Nov 05, 2012, 06:52 AM
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Thanks Charles.
Wanted to fly the 190 yesterday at my club field but there was a dense sea fog that hung around all morning. By the time the fog lifted, I had to leave.

That was the Triple Creek RC Club site where the Watttfest event was held. First time I had been there and it is a really nice facility. They have water there and an AC power outlet at each pit location. Was nice to bring a power supply and charge batteries without worry of killing the battery in the car. Too bad it's so far from home...

Nov 06, 2012, 08:20 PM
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Great work Glenn!
Nov 07, 2012, 03:59 PM
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Glenn, such a great job on this model! You were right, it really is a smooth flyer!
Feb 21, 2013, 02:30 PM
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Glenn, Beautiful job on the FW190. All my planes are foamies, parkzone ultra micros and some scratchbuild foam planes. How durable is the tissue / dope covering? If I ditch it in the grass, is it going to get holes poked into it easily?
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Feb 21, 2013, 03:13 PM
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The Guillows tissue with 2 coats of dope, and a light color coat of MM Acryl has proven to be very durable. The grass stubble and small stones at our field haven't poked any holes in any of my micro models, but I'm sure it will happen sooner or later though...
I think a lot of the reason for the durability is how light these models are. I have had the grass/weed stubble poke holes in Ultracote on a couple of my much heavier models!

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