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Old Mar 01, 2013, 09:25 AM
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That's interesting re. the 'warm up' time on the Phantom. My Naza generally gets full GPS lock in about 30 secs, often less. I sometimes have to wait for the green flashes (heading recorded) before taking off! Never noticed any drifting etc. issues.

I assume the Phantom has slightly different firmware running on the same hardware. Wonder if they will revise the 'normal' Naza firmware?
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Old Mar 01, 2013, 09:39 AM
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The Phantom warm-up surely eliminates (apparently) all the woes we've seen concerning start-up and early flight.
When the Naza FC signals it's ready to fly, everything is rock solid.
I think the warm-up feature was introduced to keep the RTF type newbies from hurting themselves or their airframe.
FWIW:
No TBE
No compass declination
No initial "drift"
etc....

I surely wouldn't mind the next firmware update including it.
I generally always sit at launch point until I at least see the rapid green CL confirmation.
You never know...
Old Mar 01, 2013, 09:49 AM
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I uploaded a video that has, within the description, a method for setting proper voltage values within the Naza Assistant software--without having to guess. Using this method may help to maximize your flight time. I say "may" because you'll have to judge for yourself. All I can say, is that I have used this method and it has extended MY flight time. You will have to watch the video within YouTube to access the "description." Try it, you'll like it! Please give me some feedback as to what you think/results! The video has some "jello," however I have since upgraded my DJI F450 with some Xoar beechwood props that I carefully balanced and some Tiger Motor MT2216 10 900Kv motors. Since this upgrade, the resulting videos on my GoPro Hero 2 have been jello-free and great! The second video, below, was taken after the upgrade.

http://youtu.be/EmSedL0K62U

http://youtu.be/Y7jz3GfPhrU

Here is a link to my YouTube channel so that you may read the above description. Look for the "How To...Voltage" video. Please subscribe to my channel while you're there!

http://www.youtube.com/user/mikerxer
VERY NICE so question other than change the props and motors, was there anthing else you did different from the previous installation? For instance did you test and balance the new motors before installation? Where the previous DJI motors? Reason I ask is I find their bearing are not the best giving side and end play after some usage. I have new "grade 5" bearings on order that have a .015 using the Annular Bearings Engineers Committee” (ABEC) scale.

BTW for all looking at these posts I am currently flying a DJI F450, stock motors, ESC, NANZ-M w/ GPS and the NEW 10x3.8 DJI props. These new props are great, stiff, tough, and cheap ($13.99 USD) for set of four.
Old Mar 01, 2013, 10:01 AM
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That's correct.
I was not clear on when the CL heading is recorded.

I've been experimenting with the Phantom.
Ed has too, so I'm providing him an alibi as well...
It has a built-in warm-up at initialization.
If you get in the habit of observing that prerequisite to flying, all the other amenities get taken care of.
Warm-up takes from 60 to 180 seconds on average...
Thanks for covering my a$$. So many versions of the software and only so much time. Eventually the software will be consolidated but not yet. Personally I don't like the warmup period of the the Phantom. I have been able to fly my Naza's without it for quite some time now without ill effect. Even in moderate temps, 40-50's, 3 min is required at a minimum.
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Old Mar 01, 2013, 01:32 PM
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Thanks for covering my a$$. So many versions of the software and only so much time. Eventually the software will be consolidated but not yet. Personally I don't like the warmup period of the the Phantom. I have been able to fly my Naza's without it for quite some time now without ill effect. Even in moderate temps, 40-50's, 3 min is required at a minimum.
Hey Ed,

I too don't like the warm-up wait, especially after more than a decade with "Instant-on" electric planes. What I have found though is my Naza does work better if I let it sit for three or four minutes on a pre-flight battery so I have changed parts of my set up routine to adjust for this wait time. So, I don't really wait now as it is warming up while I am setting other stuff (charger, chair, toolbox, etc) up.
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Old Mar 01, 2013, 01:49 PM
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I don't necessarily like the wait, but it seems to be a benefit.
I'm not going to complain too much about something that works.
When I get back to flying the F450 and F550 more regularly, I plan to see if some extra wait time eliminates the small amount of erratic flight I initially see.
I usually lift off right after I see the CL rapid green LED flash...
Old Mar 01, 2013, 04:02 PM
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Short video in my serie "Candle Naza in the wind", from our last trip in the mountains, nothing out of the ordinary, apart the outrageous amount of snow we have around here this winter

(Place is : Romeyere pass, Vercors mountains, french Alps, France, Europe, Earth)

Quadcopter - 25/02/2013 - Col de Romeyere (2 min 19 sec)


And not really Naza related, but anyway, there's a sweet octocopter in the newest Devin Graham video here :
(Jump to 8:00)

Behind The Scenes - Insane Canyon Rope Swing (14 min 30 sec)
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Old Mar 01, 2013, 06:48 PM
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If anyone is still confused about NAZA IOS, this little video really solidified my understanding

naza gps ioc info (8 min 37 sec)
Old Mar 01, 2013, 11:54 PM
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Wow what a thread!! I just picked up my first quad second-hand from a member on this site. It's an HT-FPV frame with DJI Naza. I am loving it! I have taken some videos both onboard and from the ground. I am loving this thing and love flying it. I've got about 20 flights on it now.

Here's a couple vids I took - I have realized I need to build an aerobatic quad too! From what I hear the Naza might not be best suited for aerobatics...

From the other day:
Quad Flying (2 min 32 sec)


And an onboard - one of my first few flights so not too smooth, but whatever :
HoverThings FPV quad doing some flips and rolls. (3 min 29 sec)


I have more reading to do!!!
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Old Mar 02, 2013, 03:22 AM
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Thats some quality piloting, nice display of the Naza manual mode.
First quad, but I guess not your first rotor machine ?
Old Mar 04, 2013, 10:37 AM
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I parked my NAZA F450 next to my new jet! you can really see the size difference! My wife said size really does matter!
Old Mar 04, 2013, 11:07 AM
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Video of you flying the jet?
Old Mar 04, 2013, 11:13 AM
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Video of you flying the jet?
I still haven't got my FAA waver! apparently someone gave the FAA a heads up about my jet! They are worried about public safety if I fly the thing.
Old Mar 04, 2013, 11:22 AM
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Why do you think I want the video? Will be a combination of the TV show Americas Funniest Home Videos and Destroyed In Seconds.
Old Mar 04, 2013, 12:02 PM
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Or Seconds From Disaster

Really , you need a permit or something in there ?
Go fly the damn thing !!


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