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Nov 05, 2011, 11:02 AM
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Bixler a.k.a SkySurfer tendency to flare


Greetings,

I have a Bixler that I am learning on and although I do have the CG at 60 mm when I straighten up from turning (banking) it has the tendency to lift the nose up and lose the airspeed. Is there anything that I've done wrong or this is the way this high wings behaves ??
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Marian
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Nov 05, 2011, 02:47 PM
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Just about all aircraft do this, you'll soon be adding forward stick pressure as you roll out of a turn as unconsciously as adding back pressure when you roll into a turn and the nose wants to drop.
Nov 05, 2011, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MarLi
Greetings,

I have a Bixler that I am learning on and although I do have the CG at 60 mm when I straighten up from turning (banking) it has the tendency to lift the nose up and lose the airspeed. Is there anything that I've done wrong or this is the way this high wings behaves ??
cheers,
Marian
I have a Hawk Sky which is VERY similiar. Same thing happens at 60mm which is the recommended distance. I make it a bit nose heavy and it flys GREAT. I'd say 65mm is more realistic.
Nov 06, 2011, 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by MarLi
Greetings,

I have a Bixler that I am learning on and although I do have the CG at 60 mm when I straighten up from turning (banking) it has the tendency to lift the nose up and lose the airspeed. Is there anything that I've done wrong or this is the way this high wings behaves ??
cheers,
Marian
Sounds to me like you are speeding up during the turn. When you roll out, the drag is reduced and the excess speed induces a climb.

Add power to maintain the same altitude through the turn and control the pitch to maintain the same airspeed. As you roll out reduce power. As long as you maintain the same airspeed and altitude through the turn, the plane won't start climbing.
Nov 06, 2011, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Dakine48
I have a Hawk Sky which is VERY similiar. Same thing happens at 60mm which is the recommended distance. I make it a bit nose heavy and it flys GREAT. I'd say 65mm is more realistic.
If you're moving the CG from 60mm to 65mm from the leading edge you are lightening the nose, not making it 'a bit nose heavy'.

.......Mike
Nov 07, 2011, 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by MS_in_NY
If you're moving the CG from 60mm to 65mm from the leading edge you are lightening the nose, not making it 'a bit nose heavy'.

.......Mike
Thanks Mike. I was a bit confused. More like 55m then. I have sticks set in the wings at 60 mm and just make sure the nose drops when I check the CG. I guess I'll should get around to moving the sticks to about 55mm and see exactly where it flys better when balanced out!


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