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Old Oct 20, 2011, 11:58 PM
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The Brand New Blade 450 3D X

Here is the compiled information about the Blade 450 X.

Found here: http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=BLH4380

Blade 450 X BNF

Overview
The phenomenal Blade 450 X has been designed from the ground up to give experienced 3D pilots the most extreme performance available in a Bind-N-Fly 450-size platform. Central to its awesome performance is the Spektrum AR7200BX 7-channel DSMX® receiver with built-in BeastX™ flybarless technology – the most advanced flybarless technology available for high-performance 3D helicopters. This, along with features like its high-output brushless power system, hardened dampers and carbon fiber main blades, allow the Blade 450 X to achieve a level of 3D performance that practically defies physics.



Key Features
Spektrum™ AR7200BX DSMX receiver with BeastX technology
Powerful E-flite® 440H 4200Kv brushless motor
E-flite 35A S-BEC ESC
325mm carbon fiber main blades
Hardened 80-degree dampers
Composite aluminum/fiber-reinforced swashplate
E-flite DS76 digital sub-micro cyclic servos
E-flite DS76T digital sub-micro tail servo
CNC-machined aluminum head block
Triple ball bearing supported, hardened steel main shaft
Belt-driven tail rotor
Weighted tail blade mounting hardware
Rigid, lightweight main frame
Aluminum tail boom
Tail rotor grips with thrust bearings
Includes a high-output E-flite 3S 11.1V 2200mAh 30C Li-Po battery
Includes 3-cell DC Li-Po balancing charger

Needed to Complete
A 6+ channel DSM2- or DSMX-compatible transmitter with helicopter programming

Specs
Type: Electric Flybarless Collective-Pitch Helicopter
Main Rotor Diameter: 28.4 in (721mm)
Tail Rotor Diameter: 6.1 in (155mm)
Gross Weight: 25.3 oz (717 g)
Length: 25.8 in (655mm)
Kit/ARF/RTF: BNF
Rotor Blade Length: 325mm
Minimum Age Recommendation: 14 years
Experience Level: Advanced
Recommended Environment: Outdoor
Is Assembly Required: No

Expected release: Late November, 2011

Total price: $499.99

This makes my regular Blade 450 3D look like last years iPad. Obsolete.

Well guys, I guess we get what we asked for... a Flybarless Blade 450 3D.

This is an open conversation; comments, ideas, and thoughts are welcome.
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Old Oct 21, 2011, 12:08 AM
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Looks slick, can't wait
Old Oct 21, 2011, 12:36 AM
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Here we go again. Subscribed.
Old Oct 21, 2011, 12:40 AM
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Here we go again. Subscribed.
Me too, I'm very interested in this heli and anxious to see how it performs.
Old Oct 21, 2011, 12:40 AM
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Old Oct 21, 2011, 01:07 AM
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Looks like it might be pretty good value but I've never been a big fan of eflite servos and fbl systems work the cyclic servos hard. The specs on the servos look ok but they only list 4.8v, wonder if that means you have no option to output 6v?
Old Oct 21, 2011, 01:48 AM
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Looks like it might be pretty good value but I've never been a big fan of eflite servos and fbl systems work the cyclic servos hard. The specs on the servos look ok but they only list 4.8v, wonder if that means you have no option to output 6v?
That brings up a good point. I looked at the specs of the cyclic servos and I found they do function at 6V, but the advantages aren't very much IMHO.

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...S76#quickSpecs
Old Oct 21, 2011, 01:57 AM
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It would be easier to keep up with this if it were moved to the Mini section.Just a suggestion.
Old Oct 21, 2011, 11:06 AM
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That brings up a good point. I looked at the specs of the cyclic servos and I found they do function at 6V, but the advantages aren't very much IMHO.

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...S76#quickSpecs
Ya... pretty cheap servos though (cost wise). I'm very interested in the receiver/3-axi gyro but will pass on the rest. Would rather build a clone w/ my own electronics choices and just stick the ar7200bx in it.
Old Oct 21, 2011, 11:37 AM
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That brings up a good point. I looked at the specs of the cyclic servos and I found they do function at 6V, but the advantages aren't very much IMHO.

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...S76#quickSpecs
Amazing how these "real" servos are a full $5 cheaper than the stupid mCP X servos.

But, these servos seem pretty good so far. I have a bunch of flights on my B450 3D and they're holding up fine. And I fly pretty hard...but I haven't crashed YET, either... I'm fully expecting them to strip and I have three Hitec HS65MG servos standing by for when they do. Last I checked, HH didn't even have the replacement plastic gear train parts for those servos.
Old Oct 21, 2011, 01:04 PM
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More interesting than the helicopter itself is:

Spektrum™ AR7200BX DSMX receiver with BeastX technology

Can a sat be plugged into this unit as well?

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More interesting than the helicopter itself is:

Spektrum™ AR7200BX DSMX receiver with BeastX technology

Can a sat be plugged into this unit as well?

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From the pictures it doesn't look like there's a port for a satellite. The other thing is that while it's nice and compact... what if you need more channels for something like a scale heli? 7ch is more than enough if all you want is an fbl heli but what if you have retracts, lights, winch... etc? Wonder if an AR9200BX is in the works?
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Can a sat be plugged into this unit as well?

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Yes. If you look at the picture in the link below closely, there is an Rx L port right in the middle of all the other channels. It was also confirmed by a HH employee over on Helifreak.

http://www.spektrumrc.com/Products/D...ID=SPMAR7200BX
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Also, they REALLY need to offer a TT option for the tail, especially if they're aiming for the Align Trex 450 market. This thing is marketed as an "advanced" heli right on their website. A great many serious, hardcore heli pilots aren't going to want a belt tail. Have a "sport" version with the belt and a "pro" version with TT tail drive...
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Also, they REALLY need to offer a TT option for the tail, especially if they're aiming for the Align Trex 450 market. This thing is marketed as an "advanced" heli right on their website. A great many serious, hardcore heli pilots aren't going to want a belt tail. Have a "sport" version with the belt and a "pro" version with TT tail drive...
They Will NEVER hit the Align 450 Market NEVER COME CLOSE!!!!


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