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Mar 01, 2012, 11:50 AM
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erh, just curious. Did you remove the end-cap with the axial blades from the motor? On the smaller ones, the blades can be swaped to extract rather than push air in.
Yes, i took the end cap off..it just screwed off

I know which ones you're talking about, you can turn the blades around so it'll pull vs push
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Mar 01, 2012, 11:59 AM
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Yes, i took the end cap off..it just screwed off
So, what's you take? Run the motor with the cap off?
Mar 01, 2012, 12:17 PM
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So, what's you take? Run the motor with the cap off?
Yes, no doubt...you can also get a good look at the coils too.

I've added a couple to my wish list on HK...seriously thing of putting this in my FF 100 and seeing how it does in flight.

8mins beating on it on the bench hasn't convinced me yet...
Mar 01, 2012, 12:20 PM
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Mar 01, 2012, 04:34 PM
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I ran it in the house seems pretty good. Im thinking two of these detrum motors on 3s with the cs10 fan might be a nice powerful light set up

I have the same Idea of using 3S because I have the 100gr mega 16/20/2 3100kv.

in terms of rpm
a 2300kv motor with 4s is roughly : 2300kv*4s*3.5v*0.8 = 25760 rpm
a 3100kv motor with 3s is roughly : 3100kv*3s*3.5v*0.8 = 26040 rpm

the only difference is amp draw though....
Mar 01, 2012, 05:49 PM
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I wish I could find a good standoff maker that didn't charge an arm and a leg because "cooling" is sooooooooo important to the life of an EDF fan. The one thing that L3026 motor has in it is an open ended bell and I could feel the heat coming off of it WOT. I think the CP motors have that advantage along with being fairly light with a longer bell length.

I remember in car audio when the manufactures starting cooling with oils and opened ended and bumped voice coil cylinders watts and performance went up.
Don's R/C has standoff adapters for $20 usd. They are made well, I have used them before. I agree with you about cooling of the motor, standoff adapters make a big difference..
http://www.donsrc.com/cart/index.php...d&productId=54
Mar 01, 2012, 06:13 PM
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ok.


just found out I have an old mega 16/25/4 1270 kv in the box.

this might be fine with CS 10 blade + 8s and keep the amp draw low.
1270kv * 8s * 3.5v * 0.8 = 28500 rpm
Mar 01, 2012, 07:26 PM
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Racer if you would, add to the info to a legend, as to what the various initials stand for if you would.
Would help the dummies like me figure out what they all stand for.

For example, when I pulled up the latest version with color, the screen size was so large the legend didn't show. Took some resizing and head scratching till I figured it out.
Mar 01, 2012, 07:31 PM
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Flylow, the Mega 25/4 is a great motor. I used them all the time in my Strykers, 50+ amps and they never broke a sweat. Granted they had some serious airflow around em.

Anywho, had today off, and finally got my girl up on her feet. Just waiting on some motors and she's done.
Mar 01, 2012, 07:36 PM
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Racer if you would, add to the info to a legend, as to what the various initials stand for if you would.
Would help the dummies like me figure out what they all stand for.

For example, when I pulled up the latest version with color, the screen size was so large the legend didn't show. Took some resizing and head scratching till I figured it out.
Yes I will, but I have not posted a version yet with color coding, I have an outstanding question for Manuel or the group in post #2320 .....
Mar 01, 2012, 09:45 PM
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Flylow, the Mega 25/4 is a great motor.
I used them all the time in my Strykers, 50+ amps and they never broke a sweat. Granted they had some serious airflow around em.


What is the wattage do you have on your Mega 14/25/4???
and how many cell???

thx.
Mar 01, 2012, 10:23 PM
RAVI KOTHARI
Just recvd a Fan, missing both Grub Screws, any idea on what size they are?
regards
Ravi.
Mar 01, 2012, 10:28 PM
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Just recvd a Fan, missing both Grub Screws, any idea on what size they are?
regards
Ravi.
3mm
Mar 02, 2012, 01:24 AM
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Manuel - I tested the CP-480-3300 and the Turnigy XK2850-B-3000kv. I can tell you the CP ran cooler measured with infrared. I don't believe we are taking into account setups that have a stand off adaper and put the motor in the air stream vs. up in the shroud with this rating scale. I know there are other ways to affect cooling, but we are talking about a general rating to give guidance.

Thoughts on how to adjust for that appreciated?

I also believe the watts for the Tacon results were settled Ws: vs. Wp: Just fyi.
That's right, very interesting question.
On a forum asked Dr. kiwi, if, when selecting the engine weight, included the Xmount and adapter or just the engine.

Not if my answer is correct.
but I think in any application, any metallic material that is touching the engine helps to dissipate the heat.
If we add air flow, then increase heat dissipation.
That I be the reason why an engine used in 3D applications only pays 2.5 to 4 watts per gram of weight, while EDF pays a facilmete 8 watts per gram.
In a metal DF engine must be able to be enforced more.
I think in the case of two engines of the same weight, one inruner vs a outruner as CP-480, the outruner has more ability to dissipate heat.
But it is difficult to measure because it also features efficiency.
Het motors and the like are very efficient, while CP-480 are not so (I think, but I have not measured), so in like circumstances will produce less heat het that the CP-480 matching the stage.

EDF have some additional air inlets at the front to give better ventilation to the engine.

Of course, an EDF without proper ventilation with no holes Inruner front backwards, has little chance of performing .

Manuel V.
Mar 02, 2012, 02:22 AM
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3mm
thank you.


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