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Old Feb 01, 2012, 07:23 PM
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What exactly is wrong? Don't they only sell the Tarot 500ESP? If not, then there's clearly a typo on their website seeing how there's two of them.
They show a Tarot 500 ESP but I don't think they have any. After not sending anything for a month, I sent a message to credit my paypal account. They replied they would send it out that day. Well, I got it today and its the plastic model EP500.
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Old Feb 01, 2012, 07:53 PM
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Yea I think leader had the plastic 500 for like $40
Old Feb 01, 2012, 10:46 PM
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A very good write up from TOYRECYCLER on tuning the ZYX.

Check it out
http://www.toyrecycler.net/?p=23279

This site may answer many questions regarding the values in the advance menu.
Old Feb 01, 2012, 11:58 PM
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Very good write-up indeed. Sounds a lit like the AC-3X manual...
Old Feb 02, 2012, 01:36 AM
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A very good write up from TOYRECYCLER on tuning the ZYX.

Check it out
http://www.toyrecycler.net/?p=23279

This site may answer many questions regarding the values in the advance menu.
It seems to be direct copy paste from https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show....php?t=1579703
I wrote that manual and asked if people from this forum, if anyone has something to add there or find errors from that.

Manual is still missing information for swash acceleration and deceleration. Can anybody tell what happens if swash acceleration/deceleration is too low or high?
Old Feb 02, 2012, 01:49 AM
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It seems to be direct copy paste from https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show....php?t=1579703
I wrote that manual and asked if people from this forum, if anyone has something to add there or find errors from that.

Manual is still missing information for swash acceleration and deceleration. Can anybody tell what happens if swash acceleration/deceleration is too low or high?
Hi,

Would you mind if I integrated the information on your 'manual' into my FBL software.
I am thinking that I could add a ? to each parameter and pop up a dialog with the relevant information in it.

- John
Old Feb 02, 2012, 03:36 AM
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Hi,

Would you mind if I integrated the information on your 'manual' into my FBL software.
I am thinking that I could add a ? to each parameter and pop up a dialog with the relevant information in it.

- John
Sure you can use it. It would be great that the PC software has explanations for those settings.
Old Feb 02, 2012, 04:59 AM
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It seems to be direct copy paste from https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show....php?t=1579703
I wrote that manual and asked if people from this forum, if anyone has something to add there or find errors from that.

Manual is still missing information for swash acceleration and deceleration. Can anybody tell what happens if swash acceleration/deceleration is too low or high?
good job jaahaavi! Thanks.

For the swash accel/decel, I'm guessing they act the same as for the tail.

Also I disagree with your manual on the point that Pitch and Roll settings ought to be the same. A helicopter is an asymmetric machine. It's far easier to roll than flip over the tail boom. It's also easier to roll right for that matter as well as yaw left. Just my $0.02...
Old Feb 02, 2012, 08:44 AM
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It seems to be direct copy paste from https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show....php?t=1579703
I wrote that manual and asked if people from this forum, if anyone has something to add there or find errors from that.

Manual is still missing information for swash acceleration and deceleration. Can anybody tell what happens if swash acceleration/deceleration is too low or high?
Great write up jaahaavi

Thanks for taking the time to do this.
Old Feb 02, 2012, 03:44 PM
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They show a Tarot 500 ESP but I don't think they have any. After not sending anything for a month, I sent a message to credit my paypal account. They replied they would send it out that day. Well, I got it today and its the plastic model EP500.
Either that or one of the ESPs is actually an EP version. Makes sense too as they are both belt versions.

I'd ask them for an exchange and send it back, if doing that is worth anything to you.
Old Feb 02, 2012, 10:11 PM
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+1 installed and flying...


Finally had the time to install my ZYX and Tarot head on the used 250 clone I got a few months back. I did not not really want to even bother with the 250 Tarot head until I got a hold of some green bearing retainer compound to take the head slop out of those blade grips. With that sorted out, the rest was all pretty simple. I did the standard setup via the radio (tips from ZeroPitch helped! -- Thanks!) and things went smooth. Once I got most of the mechanical slop out of my tail, and got the tail gain dialed in, I was pretty happy with it. I have about 20+ flights on it, and it's more fun each time I fly it! A few pics are on my blog.

Eventually, I may order a cable and try out the software to fine tune things, but I pretty much like it the way it is so far.
Old Feb 03, 2012, 12:04 AM
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Either that or one of the ESPs is actually an EP version. Makes sense too as they are both belt versions.

I'd ask them for an exchange and send it back, if doing that is worth anything to you.
Thanks PHMX, the guy said he would give me a full refund if I send it back but its $30 to $40
Old Feb 03, 2012, 06:46 AM
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good job jaahaavi! Thanks.

For the swash accel/decel, I'm guessing they act the same as for the tail.

Also I disagree with your manual on the point that Pitch and Roll settings ought to be the same. A helicopter is an asymmetric machine. It's far easier to roll than flip over the tail boom. It's also easier to roll right for that matter as well as yaw left. Just my $0.02...
Yeah, I think you got point there. My explanation is misleading.
e.g. I had wrote:
("Roll D gain" and "Pitch D gain" values should be always the same.)
But I meant to wrote something like this:
(In all five default profiles "Roll D gain" value is identical to "Pitch D gain" value.)

Is that now better?
Old Feb 03, 2012, 07:46 AM
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Thanks PHMX, the guy said he would give me a full refund if I send it back but its $30 to $40
Alright. That's to bad man. Yeah, sounds like you'd better keep it and upgrade some of the plastic stuff then, right? For a return of around 100$, I'd probably keep the model.

What strikes me though is that they also have two different prices. One is 206.33$ , the other is 148.88$.

I think they should clarify why there's such a difference there, regardless of a full refund.
Old Feb 03, 2012, 09:19 AM
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Alright. That's to bad man. Yeah, sounds like you'd better keep it and upgrade some of the plastic stuff then, right? For a return of around 100$, I'd probably keep the model.

What strikes me though is that they also have two different prices. One is 206.33$ , the other is 148.88$.

I think they should clarify why there's such a difference there, regardless of a full refund.
Yeah, the $148 one wasn't there the other day. I think they got a shipment of the cheaper one in and didn't realize they were different. They are going to send out the metal parts to replace the plastic ones.
Thanks for noticing. I don't think they were trying to pull a fast one. They just didn't know.


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