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Dec 31, 2012, 07:31 PM
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If anyone is looking for parts I am about to part out my scimitar. Haven't flown it since the summer and basically collecting dust.
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Dec 31, 2012, 11:02 PM
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Well get out and fly that thing what u waiting for?
Jan 01, 2013, 12:00 AM
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Already flown it! Don't really like it so it collects dust!
Jan 02, 2013, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by crashguru
I know I will be first trying this motor and seeing how it does on 6s and apc 9x9 prop with a 100 amp esc
Here is some information from my post from January 28, 2012 on this forum. I hope it helps. It was not smart of me to run it for so long on the ground without any airflow on the motor or ESC. However, it is still running fine after a full season (at least 30 flights or so - I have other planes). I like this setup as it seems faster and the vertical is unlimited as far as I can tell (I stop going up when I just about can't see it anymore). With this setup, it does not feel underpowered to me. I get pretty good flight times with throttle management (5-6minutes).

On 5s 3300 with CC ICE 100 ESC using APC 9x9E Prop:
Amps WOT - 69.5
Watts WOT - 1240
Stock Motor = about 180 degrees after several 10 second bursts of WOT (no airflow - sitting on the ground) - ambient temp - 60 degrees[/QUOTE]

How about a good 4s motor/prop combo? I'm trying to avoid going 5s if at all possible.
Jan 03, 2013, 09:07 PM
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I am happy enough with my current 5s setup. I had not experimented with different prop/motor combinations for 4s. My apologies as I have nothing to offer.
Jan 04, 2013, 08:07 AM
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do you guys think stock for stock the schimitar is faster than the habu 2?
Jan 04, 2013, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by bladeguy5
do you guys think stock for stock the schimitar is faster than the habu 2?
Probably not. I don't think the intent was for the Scimitar was to be a super fast plane. I have left mine stock and am fine with it. I think the intent was to have a plane with a very wide flight envelope with the ability to perform some very dynamic flying. If your looking to go super fast I think something like of funjet, or perhaps if your brave enough a hotliner. We have a couple of guys at our feild that are 160-180 with those.
Jan 04, 2013, 08:48 AM
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thanks fenton i have one more question i bent the motor shaft on the BL32 in the scimitar. i tried to replace it yesterday but it seems like the grub screws that are holding the shaft will not come out.
Jan 04, 2013, 09:05 AM
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Loctited most likely. Use a little heat to soften it(lighter or soldering iron). That should get them to back out.
Jan 05, 2013, 09:37 AM
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I guess I will have to shell out $80 dollars for a new motor smh
Jan 05, 2013, 09:43 AM
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I fly both the Habu 2 and the Scimitar. The Habu 2 is about 10-15 mph faster. It also flies and feels differently as they are very different planes. The Habu 2 is a great jet trainer, and has a scale jet look and feel. It can prepare you to move up to the Habu 32, which pushes 130 mph stock. Very exciting.

The Scimitar is a prop pusher flying wing which can do aerobatics the Habu 2 can't even think about. So I enjoy both for what they are, and they are VERY different.

If you want 100 mph speed, mod the Habu 2 for 5S per the thread on this forum. It is easy, and you will be rewarded with a nice flying sport jet.
Jan 05, 2013, 07:53 PM
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So I finally went out and bought a watt meter today. I threw in an ICE Lite 100. The stock prop only pulls 55amps peak and 50 constant, contradictory to everything I've seen in this thread. I threw an APC 9x9e on and pulled... 55amps peak and 50 constant. Very disappointed I wasted money on the ICE 100. I can't see a 5s setup doubling the amp draw on the 9x9. I'll probably be lucky to even break the 75amp peak the stock ESC is rated for.

Where are these huge amperage numbers coming from?
Jan 08, 2013, 12:37 AM
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Sounds like you are on 4S not 5S which the guys run for increased performance.

Do you have Watts or volts under load?


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Jan 08, 2013, 11:37 AM
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Watts were around 820 IIRC.

I've got a 5s 3300 on the way, so we'll see what that does.
Jan 08, 2013, 03:09 PM
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Nobody seems to have done any motor swaps that I can find, so I guess I'll be the first. I'm thinking of one of these for a 4s setup with a 9x9:

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...r-2330W-1400kV

I'll have to ballpark it and then see what direction I need to go with the prop.