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May 26, 2011, 09:56 PM
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take out the GNDīs you dont need.
I thought about disconnecting some GND from pins which are dedicated to motors, but i didnt to get a more universal board.
To be honest i didnt disconnect my gnds and never had problems, norf and many others also, you are absolutely right there is a potential for gnd loops, but i never had some nor heard about it from other Flyduino users.
BTW i send you a nice and fresh GPS BOB for testing purposes.

@Berkely, thanks for the info, as always very valuable.
I will have a look after those dampeners, but i think those servo tape to mount the senors works pretty well too as vibration dampening.
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May 26, 2011, 09:58 PM
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Awesome, thank you.
May 27, 2011, 01:42 AM
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Hi Guys made some GPS Bobīs for testing.
These 3 will go out to developers/testers.
Ramon will get one and Oleg will get one.
3rdeye should get one too i tihnk.
From this first 3 none is for me, Jussi can you wait till i have the 3.3V regulators?
As Ramon showed in the Pirates Thread the LLC is not needed it seems, but i will stay with that, its safe.
I may can add support for other modules on the bob?
It's looking good Paul! Great, can't wait to try mine out!
May 27, 2011, 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by berkely
Carefull with the diagrams David

It seems you have connected all gnd's from the ESC's together. It's better not to do so & avoid ground loops. Check this link on that topic if you want.

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B.
Hi Berkely

I had never thought of doing it any other way ... but I guess as the ESC is already getting a ground on the power input side of things ... My tricopter is wired up with all the power grounds connected and all the signal grounds connected too ...

I will think this over!

Cheers


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May 27, 2011, 02:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Goofy23
Hi Guys made some GPS Bobīs for testing.
These 3 will go out to developers/testers.
Ramon will get one and Oleg will get one.
3rdeye should get one too i tihnk.
From this first 3 none is for me, Jussi can you wait till i have the 3.3V regulators?
As Ramon showed in the Pirates Thread the LLC is not needed it seems, but i will stay with that, its safe.
I may can add support for other modules on the bob?
One good thing would be to have the LED flashing when a GPS fix occurs.

Do you think it could be done? This would be a great visual feedback.
May 27, 2011, 04:52 AM
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Well Paul....

I had hope to get some of those GPS bobs soon. Its no problem to source 3.3v regulators for me.....

But if you only have a limited qty, then they should of course go to testers and coders....

Jussi
May 27, 2011, 06:06 AM
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Anyone got a source in europe or the uk for the GPS, $32.00 shipping from the states is just taking the p*ss
May 27, 2011, 06:26 AM
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Ok Jussi, i recycled some regulators from other projects, 2 GPS Bobs will go out to you today.
Mission acomplished, 2 GPS Bobs laying in front of my door allready prepared for its way to denmark.
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May 27, 2011, 07:16 AM
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I dont have any capacities for it atm, but a new group buy thread should be interessting for many europeans.
When i have more free capacities i may can order some and take it in to the shop, when the module has aproved its usabilty.
Its geeting good reviews in other forums.
I may can add some pads for a ublox module, but those are quite expensive, starting from 75€.
Any suggestions/alterantives would be nice.
May 27, 2011, 10:34 AM
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I have emailed sales@oharap.com and had a reply concerning the 10 Hz - FMP04-TLP GPS module MediaTek chipset,
Here is the reply
Shipping to UK is $15 via USPS Priority Mail. Should arrive in 3-5 business days.

You can paypal me At xxxxxx@xxxxxx.com the cost of the unit ($25) and breakout board ($7.50 if you want it) + $15 for shipping.

This is now a much better deal than using the web site that wants $32.00 for shipping anyway I have ordered and payed for one comes to Ģ24.28 so hurry up with the bobs Paul
Last edited by Gaza07; May 27, 2011 at 10:45 AM. Reason: His reply had the wrong price of $15 should of been $25
May 27, 2011, 10:57 AM
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What's the diference off the Flydusense Sensor BOB with or without LLC ?

Thanks.-
May 27, 2011, 11:09 AM
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FFIMU alternatives?


OK -- so I ordered the Flyduino, power distribution, IMU bob etc. from Paul.

But then I go to Jussi's site and see that the FFIMU is no longer available. Moreover, he indicated on rcgroups that he won't be making any more. So is a new rev. on the way? When?

If not, what are the alternatives? I already have a WMP+NK quad and want to use a 9DOF IMU for the Flyduino.

Opinions about the ebay "all-in-one" IMU? Others?

Thanks in advance.
May 27, 2011, 11:11 AM
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One have a logic level converter on it to translate the voltage levels between the 5V arduino world and the 3.3V sensor world.
To make it clear if you plan to use a WMP and a BMA020 or nunchuck you dont need a LLC, it safe to use with enabled pullups in the mutiwii software.
If you plan to use a FFIMU you dont need it, if you always know what you do in the multiwii soft (disable pullups).
This is always the case, if you know what you do and are sure you have the software settings, you dont need it in anyway.
The LLC is a safety instance and simply a good thing for your sensor health.
May 27, 2011, 11:31 AM
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One have a logic level converter on it to translate the voltage levels between the 5V arduino world and the 3.3V sensor world.
To make it clear if you plan to use a WMP and a BMA020 or nunchuck you dont need a LLC, it safe to use with enabled pullups in the mutiwii software.
If you plan to use a FFIMU you dont need it, if you always know what you do in the multiwii soft (disable pullups).
This is always the case, if you know what you do and are sure you have the software settings, you dont need it in anyway.
The LLC is a safety instance and simply a good thing for your sensor health.
I want to clarify that I was looking for 9DOF IMUs to use with Flyduino. The obvious one -- Jussi's FFIMU -- is not available. Can you give pointers to which others are out there?

I already have WMP+NK quads and do not want to use WMP+NK again.

Also, I understand that since most stand-alone sensors are 3.3V, if the IMU has a Logic Level Converter built in, then I can directly connect it to the Flyduino I2C. If not, I can use the Flyduino bob and the LLC on that.

But mainly I am looking for web links for which IMUs I should consider.

Thanks.
May 27, 2011, 02:49 PM
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I want to clarify that I was looking for 9DOF IMUs to use with Flyduino. The obvious one -- Jussi's FFIMU -- is not available. Can you give pointers to which others are out there?

I already have WMP+NK quads and do not want to use WMP+NK again.

Also, I understand that since most stand-alone sensors are 3.3V, if the IMU has a Logic Level Converter built in, then I can directly connect it to the Flyduino I2C. If not, I can use the Flyduino bob and the LLC on that.

But mainly I am looking for web links for which IMUs I should consider.

Thanks.
Jussi is sold out on the 9DOF FFIMU - he only has some 6DOF in stock.
The only alternative in that price range is the "AllinOne" board sold on Ebay.
There's a thread here on RCG dealing with it btw.


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