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Old Jan 05, 2011, 03:18 AM
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New Product

H-King Kinetic 800








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Specification:
Length: 800mm
Wingspan: 600mm
Weight: 233g

coming soon.
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Old Jan 05, 2011, 09:47 AM
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May I have 2 please?
Old Jan 05, 2011, 10:11 AM
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I also just got the New Product email.

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=15441

Is that a fully articulating elevator I see?
Old Jan 05, 2011, 12:46 PM
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Not sure that could be more of a merlin ripoff. Wow
Old Jan 05, 2011, 02:14 PM
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I've seen many happy Merlin flyers. With a price of more than half the cost of a Merlin I'm tempted. Can't wait to see how they fly.
Old Jan 05, 2011, 11:06 PM
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Can hobbyking copy the mpx cularis also please I'm sick of waiting for stock
Old Jan 05, 2011, 11:07 PM
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And yes it is a direct copy of a Merlin
Old Jan 06, 2011, 12:35 AM
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Hmm I don't see a resemblance.





(But seriously this is the best photocopy of an existing product since Windows 1.0 copied the original Mac OS).
Old Jan 06, 2011, 02:31 PM
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Rx battery?


Hello,

I'm new in the LiPo and brushless world.
Will I be needing a separate Rx battery for the Kinetic? If so I would like to use LiPo. Can anyone recommand a pack?

Thanks!
Old Jan 06, 2011, 03:43 PM
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zwevert:
I'd get the recommended battery from HK. It's going to be the best fit. Plus, they have very cheap and decent batteries. You can prolly get two HK batts for the price of one Thunder Power batt. There's also no need for a separate rx battery.

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I don't know...There's gotta be something different.
Old Jan 06, 2011, 05:27 PM
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I happily bought the HK Swift, which I consider good value considering the crash kit it comes with. But this, I must say, is a step too much in terms of blatant theft. Moreover, it's not even good value. The electronics have to up upgraded anyway, maybe except for the ESC which looks to be sufficiently over dimensioned. So all in all, I'd buy the guts from HK and get a MPX Merlin kit for 55, which comes bundled with good conscious for paying for the development cost.
Old Jan 06, 2011, 09:21 PM
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Zero original thought. They could have tweaked it a little at least but nope.
Old Jan 07, 2011, 04:12 AM
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Thanx Sweetrex
Old Jan 08, 2011, 02:58 PM
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Not sure why you should need to upgrade the electronics, will test it when mine gets here.
Merlin kit costs 60 stirling here in UK, which is a lot more expensive and unlike the Kinetic is just the unbuilt airframe, and if you want to pay over the odds for the Multiplex powerset another 80.
Thats 140 without receiver or servos which is a bit over the top considering the size of it.
Old Jan 08, 2011, 03:42 PM
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Not sure why you should need to upgrade the electronics, will test it when mine gets here.
Merlin kit costs 60 stirling here in UK, which is a lot more expensive and unlike the Kinetic is just the unbuilt airframe, and if you want to pay over the odds for the Multiplex powerset another 80.
Thats 140 without receiver or servos which is a bit over the top considering the size of it.
Have a quick look in the HK RTF threads, let me just point out that 'underpowered' is not an uncommon word... which very often leads to words like "new", "motor", "upgrade"... but the Kinetic might be different, who knows, but based on historical data, the outlook is slim. Secondly, these RTF HK kits often come with the cheapest servos imaginable. Not directly dangerous with a light sailplane like the Merlin - ooops, Kinetic that is.., but still annoying having a crash, missing out on a perfect flying day.

You can snarf a Merlin kit from lindinger.at for 53 - with free EU shipping if you top the basket to 90. The MPX power train is good quality, but the price is unfortunately also high quality, hence I'd get the Merlin kit, and load it with a 30g motor (like the Himax, unlike the stock 21g Kinetic which might possible burn like the stock Swift motor...) and some decent (but still inexpensive) servos from HK.

Don't know how much you have to pay in fees in the UK for importing stuff (I mean custom fees, besides VAT), but in Denmark the Merlin + HK guts would work out cheaper, since servos and motors can be ordered in small packets below the 11 limit.

If HK decides to stock it in the EU warehouse, the price equation will tip to the Kinetic, but then the servos and motor will probably be inadequate, and the product would still be an unashamed knock-off... Who's gonna make the models HK is going to copy when Multiplex, Graupner, Kyosho, E-Flite are all gone?

YMMV

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