Thread Tools
Oct 19, 2010, 04:47 PM
I'm your huckleberry
Doc Holiday48's Avatar
Alert

LA no fly zone for 10/22/10


For those who were thinking of flying in the LA area this Friday, forget about it. Just received this in my email from the AMA. 35nm circle is over 12,000 square miles of area around LA. It covers from Newport Beach to Oxnard from the coast to Palmdale. I suspect the President is on a campaign trip of the west coast as Seattle and Portland are also mentioned in the TFR. The links appear to not have copied over from my email. So here are the links mentioned http://02b954f.netsolhost.com/amatfr3.html and http://www.modelaircraft.org/members...bs/notams.aspx


Bob

A new FDC NOTAM/TFR has been issued for the greater Los Angeles, CA metropolitan area for Friday, 10/22 from 10:30a until 4:59p PDT. The TFR is issued for security purposes to cover VIP movement in this area. Model aircraft operations are prohibited in the 35nm circle for the specific times listed below. Please note that TFRs are subject to change with very short notice. Check back often for the most current NOTAM/TFR information.

Timely alerts are also available on the web at: http://www.modelaircraft.org/members...bs/notams.aspx or on you cell phone at: Twitter.com/amagov.

See the link to the TFR below for more detailed information regarding the restrictions.

* Area 1 (10/22, 10:30a - 4:59p PDT)
(35nm radius from Latitude: 3405'00"N, Longitude: 11820'18"W)
* Area 2 (10/22, 10:30a - 12:00p PDT)
(8nm radius from Latitude: 3356'38"N, Longitude: 11824'29"W)
* Area 3 (10/22, 11:00a - 3:30p PDT)
(8nm radius from Latitude: 3401'26"N, Longitude: 11814'21"W)
* Area 4 (10/22, 2:30p - 4:45p PDT)
(10nm radius from Latitude: 3412'16"N, Longitude: 11821'34"W)
* Area 5 (10/22, 4:00p - 4:59p PDT)
(8nm radius from Latitude: 3356'38"N, Longitude: 11824'29"W)

TFR - 0/1912

Map View of the Affected Area

Regards
Gregory Hahn
Technical Director
AMA
Sign up now
to remove ads between posts
Oct 19, 2010, 05:51 PM
Team Futaba
Silent-AV8R's Avatar
This website allows you to see the current TFRs on an FAA VFR chart, a normal map, and a photo base map. Makes it very easy to see where the limits are compared to your location.

http://www.runwayfinder.com/

At least it is only Friday and only from 10:30 am to 5 pm
Last edited by Silent-AV8R; Oct 19, 2010 at 05:56 PM.
Oct 19, 2010, 05:51 PM
Registered User
What a waste of a good flying day!
Oct 19, 2010, 06:55 PM
Team Futaba
Silent-AV8R's Avatar
Well unless you are some sort of welfare queen shouldn't all good Red-blooded Amurikans be working on Friday??

But these are now a fact of life in our post 9-11 world.
Oct 19, 2010, 08:14 PM
Eagle Butte User
PDX Slope Pilot's Avatar
Info received for the Portland Metro Area:

A new FDC NOTAM/TFR has been issued for the area surrounding Portland, OR on Wednesday, 10/20 from 5:01p until 8:30p PDT. The TFR is issued for security purposes to cover VIP movement in this area. Model aircraft operations are prohibited in the 30nm circle for the specific times listed below. Please note that TFRs are subject to change with very short notice. Check back often for the most current NOTAM/TFR information.

Timely alerts are also available on the web at: http://www.modelaircraft.org/members...bs/notams.aspx or on you cell phone at: Twitter.com/amagov.

See the link to the TFR below for more detailed information regarding the restrictions.

* Area 1 (10/20, 5:01p - 8:30p PDT)
(30nm radius from Latitude: 4532'49"N, Longitude: 12229'23"W)
* Area 2 (10/20, 5:01p - 8:30p PDT)
(10nm radius from Latitude: 4532'49"N, Longitude: 12229'23"W)
Oct 19, 2010, 09:52 PM
Detail Freak
target's Avatar
Well I'll be a monkey's uncle!
Bob gets them too!

I have to work this friday, so now big deal for me that day, but if it had been a Friday off, I woulda been bummed!

R,
Target
Oct 19, 2010, 10:51 PM
Registered User

Obumma...


Something to do with US Senator Barbara Boxer getting support aka fund raiser from President Obama Campaign affair at USC between 11am and 3pm....


Alan
Oct 19, 2010, 11:46 PM
Daryl Perkins's Avatar
I'm flying into Corona that day... better check the restrictions... was planning on doing some sloping at Temple that afternoon before heading home...
Oct 20, 2010, 12:09 AM
Sloping the Financial Cliff
fcbflyer's Avatar
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daryl Perkins
I'm flying into Corona that day... better check the restrictions... was planning on doing some sloping at Temple that afternoon before heading home...

Is somebody really out there policing toy airplanes?
Oct 20, 2010, 12:10 AM
Team Futaba
Silent-AV8R's Avatar
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daryl Perkins
I'm flying into Corona that day... better check the restrictions... was planning on doing some sloping at Temple that afternoon before heading home...
Well, technically you cannot fly models within the area of the TFR between 10:30 and 4:59 on Friday.

Here's the FAA link: http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_0_1912.html

From the TFR:

Quote:
C. The following operations are not authorized within this TFR: flight training, practice instrument approaches, aerobatic flight, glider operations, seaplane operations, parachute operations, ultralight, hang gliding, balloon operations, agriculture/crop dusting, animal population control flight operations, banner towing operations, sightseeing operations, maintenance test flights, model aircraft operations, model rocketry, and unmanned aircraft systems (UAS).
And like I've noted, the Runwayfinder site is a cool tool to see where the TFR is on a satellite map or regular map, as well as a VFR sectional

http://www.runwayfinder.com

Corona is just outside the TFR area. It sweeps across the west end of the runways at CNO however. Temple is well within the limits.


BTW - Darwin says he is getting the couch all set for you in February Join our team and I might see my way clear to swap with you
Last edited by Silent-AV8R; Oct 20, 2010 at 12:16 AM.
Oct 20, 2010, 12:12 AM
Team Futaba
Silent-AV8R's Avatar
Quote:
Originally Posted by fcbflyer
Is somebody really out there policing toy airplanes?
I doubt they are specifically looking for us, but should they see us it would look pretty bad since we are trying to sell the FAA on the idea that we are a responsible group of hobbyists and such. So flagrantly flaunting a TFR might not be in our collective best interest right now.
Oct 20, 2010, 12:32 AM
Detail Freak
target's Avatar
Quote:
Originally Posted by Silent-AV8R
So flagrantly flaunting a TFR might not be in our collective best interest right now.
+1

I'm not saying it's OK, but sloping down on a lip slope would be a whole lot more "under the radar" than flying a TD plane up at 1000-1500' AGL....

R,
Target
Oct 20, 2010, 10:31 AM
Daryl Perkins's Avatar
Target, I was thinking the same thing... flying a slope toy (your Cyril) on a remote slope, low level, away from everyone... we all know doesn't pose a huge threat to our president. And I doubt the toy airplane police would really be looking for me at Temple... But... as a commercial pilot, if I get busted for flying models in the middle of a TFR area... yeah... probably not a good thing... soooooo... another opportunity missed... And also, like Bill says... probably not in our collective best interest.
Oct 20, 2010, 11:23 AM
Registered User
Avaldes's Avatar
My experience with the FAA is that they like the airways to be used by commerial and general aviation only. In fact, GA only lives because most of it occurs below 18,000 ft. The FAA is a VERY high inertia government agency.
Oct 20, 2010, 11:23 AM
Team Futaba
Silent-AV8R's Avatar
FWIW the AMA is working with the FAA/DHS to see if we can get these TFRs changed a bit to more realistically reflect the potential security risk posed by model aviation. It has not happened yet, but sooner or later one is going to affect a major contest or such and that is one thing the AMA is trying to avoid.


Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Category Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Discussion No Fly Zone at Poway drCarter Hand Launch 4 Feb 26, 2006 06:48 PM
Hornet in no fly zone kmla320 Micro Helis 3 Feb 25, 2003 10:10 PM
Another No Fly Zone E-Challenged Electric Plane Talk 60 Nov 04, 2001 04:59 PM