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Sep 16, 2010, 03:36 PM
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Boom vang


Hello,

I see that all RC boats used rigid boom vang. Why? Why not use a boom vang as laser or similar?
Last edited by DiasDePlaya; Sep 16, 2010 at 04:35 PM.
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Sep 16, 2010, 03:44 PM
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I usually use a "string" vang with bowsie for adjustment. While it is much faster to adjust dockside, there is a difficulty in repeating the adjustments each time.

But ..... it is faster, and no locking nuts to worry about with cold, wet fingers.
Sep 16, 2010, 09:27 PM
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one opinion would be that in really super light air conditions the rigid boom
vang will hold the boom UP when the boom is near the centerline , so that
the weight of the boom itself and the sail will not allow the shape of the
leech of the main to be affected . ie: the leech will not be over trimmed
because the boom cannot pull down the main closing off the aft edge of the main.
it keeps the leech open .
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Sep 16, 2010, 11:09 PM
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The EC 12 guys have a good vang idea, a spring loaded vang, so it will hold up the boom in light air and you can still sheet vang when you want to
http://www.ec12.info/Vang%20Build.htm
Dick I have not used a lock nut on my vangs in years, I use turnbuckle type vangs, with a slight amount of interference fit on the threads, just bring it in, turn the the wheel and your done.
John R.
Sep 17, 2010, 02:06 AM
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The EC 12 guys have a good vang idea, a spring loaded vang, so it will hold up the boom in light air and you can still sheet vang when you want to
http://www.ec12.info/Vang%20Build.htm
Dick I have not used a lock nut on my vangs in years, I use turnbuckle type vangs, with a slight amount of interference fit on the threads, just bring it in, turn the the wheel and your done.
John R.
That's very clever John!
Sep 17, 2010, 09:07 AM
Rick Lange
For the Soling 1 M, only a rigid vang assures the correct twist in main sail.
Sep 17, 2010, 09:14 AM
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For the Soling 1 M, only a rigid vang assures the correct twist in main sail.
If a rope vang can assures the correct twist in a Laser (7 sq. mt. of sail) I don't see why not in a 1M Soling!
Sep 17, 2010, 09:27 AM
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one opinion would be that in really super light air conditions the rigid boom
vang will hold the boom UP when the boom is near the centerline , so that
the weight of the boom itself and the sail will not allow the shape of the
leech of the main to be affected . ie: the leech will not be over trimmed
because the boom cannot pull down the main closing off the aft edge of the main.
it keeps the leech open .
This is why I don't like rigid vangs. In super light conditions the wind is very variable, sometimes died completely and just few second after you find some wind, I prefer to use the natural shape of the main. When wind died completely I release completely the sheet tension, that is the same that I do when onboard a 40' sailboat. When the wind start again I prefer to work with the sheet to control the twist in super light conditions, this way I can adapt the twist for every blow.
Sep 17, 2010, 12:00 PM
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Also (big boat) when you have an 11 foot wide traveller, you can travel out, sheet in and remove twist and tighten leech - or vice versa. Travel in, sheet out and add twist.

Unfortunately so many r/c classes are restricted to only 2 channel radios by class rules.
Sep 17, 2010, 07:23 PM
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If a rope vang can assures the correct twist in a Laser (7 sq. mt. of sail) I don't see why not in a 1M Soling!
The soling have flat, single panel sails. The kit vang is a rope-vang, every skipper that wants to compete has changed it.

Ultimately is just a matter of preference/taste/looks, every system has his advantages/disadvantages, you just have to figure out where your balance lies.
Sep 18, 2010, 03:50 PM
Kevin Gault
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I prefer the consistant mainsail leech profile that a rigid boom vang affords....
Sep 18, 2010, 06:05 PM
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In my Victoria I made a 8:1 rope vang, and it is very precise, and sure is lighter than a metallic vang.


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