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Sep 12, 2010, 08:32 AM
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Vintage Engines being run video


Anybody make any old vintage engine videos of their engine being run, flown or something?
I just made this video of me bench running my old Fox blue head, dual plug, BB RC .60 engine. it was manufactured back around 1966 or so. It actually has a steel needle bearing rod, with needle bearings on both ends. it needs new rings, but I am sure Frank Bowman the ringmaster46@msn.com can take care of that no problem.

I used a 13x6 prop to keep the RPMs down, as I didn't want to over-rev it too much. I used 5% nitro glow fuel with castor oil in it. I got the engine to turn the 13x6 prop at a little under 9,000 rpms, which is probably a little low. I think it would be better with new rings. After it had run a while its idle speed was down near 2,400. But in the video it was doing 3,400 or so. I discovered the throttle arm was hitting the engine test stand mount and stopping it from idling lower. This engine uses one of Duke Fox's early three needle carbs, where you have a low, mid and high needle adjustments as well as a idle stop or speed screw. The exhaust baffle does wonders for letting the engine idle real slow.

The last time I flew this engine was in 1977 on a Astro Hog or Smog Hog plane, using a old MRC 27mhz proportional radio system. The radio had huge servos and a huge receiver. The servo electronics was inside with the receiver, and they ran 6 or 7 wires to each servo. Anyway it cleaned up well and ran pretty good for being as old as it is.

One thought is most people cannot imagine how loud a .60 engine is without a muffler on it. The carbs back then were designed to provide good fuel draw without muffler pressure. No one ever thought about using a muffler nor did they think about having mufflers on the engines.

Fox 60 dual plug engine test bench run made (circa 1966) (3 min 7 sec)


A while back I test ran this old circa 1976 vintage Fox 15 bushing engine. I couldn't put the muffler on as the test stand bolt was in the way. But I was surprised as to how well it idled without a muffler.
I have the engine on a little Sportster 15 size clone plane. It was a bright sunny windy day and the light flashing through the leaves from the trees played havoc with the tachometer.
Fox 15 Bushing engine test run (2 min 1 sec)


Oh yeah, here is a video clip of me running a little OS FS26S engine a while back. If I remember these were made around 1990 or thereabouts. I really like the small four cycle engines, they are so cool being small and made with something like clockwork precision. Plus they are amazingly quiet. I really need to do something with it soon. I have two of them, maybe a twin engine plane would be neat.
OS FS26 SGlow engine RC (0 min 54 sec)
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Sep 12, 2010, 02:54 PM
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This is pretty vinatge. My D model Brown Jr on gasoline and oil. A couple flips and she's purring.



Brown Jr. Model D .60 (0 min 37 sec)
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Sep 12, 2010, 03:25 PM
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Cool! Luv it! More videos of engines please!

Saito 40 from late 70's:

Saito FA-40 Mk I (2 min 5 sec)


CoMo 40 from late 70's:

CoMo 40 (8 min 32 sec)


Enya 40 from 70's I think:

Enya 40-4C (6 min 25 sec)


O.S. FS-20 from 80's I think:

OS FS-20 (3 min 33 sec)


Russian MAC 60 from 80's I think:

Russian MAC (MDS) 10cc FIRE, 3rd Run (4 min 8 sec)


Wen-Mac 049 from the 60's:

Wen Mac Lotus Engine Test (8 min 17 sec)
Sep 12, 2010, 03:45 PM
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Cool engines! I could watch these videos all day. Anyone have any vids of vintage diesels running?

Leadchucker, what kind of coil do you use with the ignition engines?
Sep 12, 2010, 03:59 PM
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Leadchucker, what kind of coil do you use with the ignition engines?
Larry Davidson's model engine coil and high tension leads with 10K resistor. For flying with R/C on 2.4 ghz I use a solid state ignition module by Marv Stern that elimnates the condensor. The module is controlled by plugging it directly into the throttle port of you RX. It makes the points work as a switch so there is less ignition noise and further isloates noise by using an optical switching device for off and on. The entire ignition setup with coil, module and a 3.4 volt 3 cell NimH 1600 maH battery weighs in at 3.7 ounces.

Not a glitch or twitch and is super reliable.
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Sep 12, 2010, 04:53 PM
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Thanks for the info. I appreciate it. Those old spakies sure are neat.

Maybe I'll try to get a vid of my old diesel uploaded.
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Sep 12, 2010, 09:19 PM
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Nice videos guys, please keep them coming.

LeadChucker, what prop did you use and what RPMs were you getting with that engine?
Last edited by earlwb; Sep 13, 2010 at 06:55 AM.
Sep 13, 2010, 08:44 AM
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My FS-60, probably as old as I am.

OS FS60 (1 min 7 sec)


Saito FA-45 MK-II

Saito FA-45 MKII first run (7 min 24 sec)


PAW 09 MK-II, 1.5cc

P.A.W. 09 BR MKII (1 min 31 sec)


DC Spitfire, 1cc

DC Spitfire (1 min 30 sec)
Sep 13, 2010, 09:03 AM
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I'll add this. ETA .15 MKIII diesel.

ETA .15 MKIII 1965 CL Team Race Diesel Engine (2 min 36 sec)


Greg
Sep 13, 2010, 06:05 PM
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Here is a link to my vid. I can't upload vids I made with my digital camera here on the engine forum. Its my first video ever. I don't think it turned out too bad.

https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...1#post16040170

I joined You Tube.

MK-17 Diesel Engine (3 min 1 sec)
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Sep 13, 2010, 06:16 PM
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If you guys want, I could try making vid of it flying with a hat cam or something.

Wow Greg, that diesel really screams! Those are some nice diesels.
Sep 13, 2010, 07:45 PM
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I love that little Como 40.My dad had many engines in his day.But I can clearly remember everytime he would crank a Como he would look at me and grin, and comment how remarkably well they ran.


And just one more thing ,keep the vids coming.Lets keep this a no lipo zone.j/k
Sep 13, 2010, 09:04 PM
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great video clips guys.

Patxipt, yeah I have one of those old OS 60 four cycle engines too. I haven't run it since I semi-retired my old Sig Senior Kadet airplane (needs new monokote, but it uses a bunch of that stuff). I need to get it out, and oil it up some and run it again too.
Thanks for reminding me.
Sep 13, 2010, 09:29 PM
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LeadChucker, what prop did you use and what RPMs were you getting with that engine?
13 x6 and she turns at 6600 rpm on gas and oil. She'll make 7000 on methanol and castor with same prop.
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Sep 14, 2010, 09:40 AM
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Here's my Saito open rocker 30 that I bought off of eBay for $90.00. It came with all of the original paperwork, tools and stickers, muffler and also came in the original box with the foam still intact. I had been run at one time or another and then put away. When I got it it was seized up. A little methanol and some carb cleaner, along with some air tool oil and she was good to go.
Saito Fa30 open rocker (1 min 34 sec)
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