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Old Aug 10, 2010, 09:05 AM
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Old Aug 10, 2010, 09:42 AM
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Old Aug 10, 2010, 03:54 PM
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Old Aug 10, 2010, 08:19 PM
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Good stuff. Well done.
Doubt I'll build too many of them......not enough time,(LOL) but good to see.
Old Aug 11, 2010, 04:54 AM
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kenny e, I think you'll find your "Peacemaker" is actually a "Pacemaker".

You haven't got a real Peacemaker plan by any chance, have you. I think the Talisman and Flite Streak are probably scaled down versions.
Old Aug 11, 2010, 01:25 PM
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kenny e, I think you'll find your "Peacemaker" is actually a "Pacemaker".

You haven't got a real Peacemaker plan by any chance, have you. I think the Talisman and Flite Streak are probably scaled down versions.
The Flite Streak was first I believe. The Peace maker was Georges "European" cousin scaled for the smaller diesels that were popular overseas. The Talisman looks like a blatant rip-off but I don't know its history. Another borrowed design produced here in the states was the Lightening Streak although its outlines aren't near as obvious as the Talismans.

George also designed a more or less full fuse version of the Flite Streak called the Combat Streak.

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Old Aug 11, 2010, 02:15 PM
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The Flite Streak was first I believe. The Peace maker was Georges "European" cousin scaled for the smaller diesels that were popular overseas. The Talisman looks like a blatant rip-off but I don't know its history. Another borrowed design produced here in the states was the Lightening Streak although its outlines aren't near as obvious as the Talismans.

George also designed a more or less full fuse version of the Flite Streak called the Combat Streak.
His Flite Streak was released at the same time as the Green Box Nobler, 1957. The Baby Streak and Junior Streak were next, later the same year. I'd thought that the Combat Streak had been designed before the UK Peacemaker.

The fuel system in use in 1958 - 1968 for AMA combat was crankcase pressure into a tin tank, and the enclosed box fuselage protected the plumbing somewhat. If you look at the Combat Cat, however, a pod and boom design from TF in the same general time frame, its tank just sat in the open on top of a plywood platform.

The stateside Peacemaker was also for a diesel 15, but it had a 46" span, instead of 36", and coupled half-span flaps; however, when TF put it unto production, they used their formed-shell fuselage system, with a skeleton of ring formers and stringers that was somewhat difficult to keep aligned properly, which reduced its value for stunting, since from one model to the next, there was little consistency.

I've built one of each, and the TF version was lighter, so it flew just fine for me on a three bolt Fox 19, while the one with George's box fuselage was a lot heavier, although it flew quite well, but with a 3-bolt Fox 25 in it, instead.

The way George told the story, when he was contacted by Aero Modeller, he had been trying to buy an Oliver Tiger 15, unsuccessfully. His asking price for a magazine article was to become one of those engines, and that is what he ended up using in his stateside built up Peacemaker.

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Old Aug 11, 2010, 02:46 PM
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I visited George in Ft. Smith, Arkansas, in January of 1958. He showed me the plans for the profile Peacemaker. I think it came out in the February 1958 Aeromodeller, but may be wrong. I'm not sure when the Flite Streak came out. I built a Junior Flite Streak in late 1958 or early 1959.
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Are these it ?
They are indeed. Thanks.

I once had the good fortune to meet George Aldrich. He was visiting the UK and I spotted him quietly walking around the control line circles at the British Nationals. I couldn't resist going up for a chat. What a lovely fellow.
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They are indeed. Thanks.

I once had the good fortune to meet George Aldrich. He was visiting the UK and I spotted him quietly walking around the control line circles at the British Nationals. I couldn't resist going up for a chat. What a lovely fellow.
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Old Aug 12, 2010, 02:16 AM
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A couple biplanes


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Old Aug 12, 2010, 12:19 PM
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kenny e,
Thanks for posting all these plans. I remember a couple of them that I had built when I was a kid. The "Queen Bee" and the "Little Gem". I had a Cox, Pee Wee .020 and when the Little Gem came out in (I believe) M.A.N. in the early 60s I built one. The "diamond airfoil" was a little over rated I think but, still fun!
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