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Apr 05, 2010, 11:54 AM
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Some advice for HD cams which can be used for FPV


Hi,

Is there a list somewhere of very lightwight HD cams with live AV out (SD) so that one can use one high quality cam for FPV view as well as recording? Ive seen alot of people are happy with the GOPRO HD setup but at 200+ grams i was still hoping that there might be something even lighter than this. I bascially want to get a nice picture quality for FPV and also have the option to record at a higher quality than what i see in FPV. Sub 200 grams would rock.

If im missing the discussion where this is already covered, please point me in the right direction. Thanks!
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Apr 05, 2010, 12:06 PM
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Has anyone tried this one?

http://www.theflip.com/en-us/Products/specs.aspx

93 grams and composite video out. Question is whether it can do live video out when not recording and also while recording. Could probably decase this and remove the lcd screen and get it even lighter.
Apr 05, 2010, 12:46 PM
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Hmm... i think i might have been wrong about the GoPro HD... it seems its under 100 grams as well and much better quality i think.
Apr 05, 2010, 01:12 PM
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Check this thread out:

https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114914

Here's an existing thread on the Ativa cam that I have been using on my Wing Dragon. Takes HD video and is quite lightweight. And it only costs $89 right now at your local Office Depot.
Apr 06, 2010, 12:20 PM
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Hello,
I have try a lot of cameras.
The go pro HD is great quality and small weight but have a very wide angle lens.
With a trick (giving VDC to USB connector) you will have video out during recording.

Other cameras for FPV with video out during recording (used on my quadcopters) are:

Samsung NV24 - 720p - great wide lens- 120 grams - very affected by vibrations - ccd sensor
Cmos sensor:
Camileo S10 - 1440x1080 - a quite zoom lens - 130 grams - difficult shape
Camileo S10 with only essential parts no battery- 30 grams
Camileo H20 - 1440x1080 - optical zoom - 260 grams - easy shape
Camileo H20 - with only essential parts battery - 130 grams
Sony Webbie - 1440xq080 a quite zoom lens - 110 grams - easy shape- the lens can be easely modify for nick movement

Camileo and Sony webbie may take benefit by additionnal wide angle lens

Go Pro HD video on Mikrokopter :
Snow in Milan seen from a Mikrokopter (2 min 21 sec)
(Vimeo has bring resolution down !)
Sony Webbie video on Mikrokopter : http://vimeo.com/6905528 (password: schiepp)

Better to download videos from Vimeo for smooth viewing
Last edited by lucamaxco; Apr 06, 2010 at 01:25 PM.
Apr 06, 2010, 02:42 PM
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I have a GoProHD on order, but can't help giving the Webbie a second look. The picture quality seems comparable, but with Webbie at almost 1/3 the price I could buy a few for crash replacement.
Apr 06, 2010, 03:22 PM
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Hi,

Thanks for the tips......have managed to pick up a Sony Webbie on Ebay cheap. Definitely won't feel bad strapping that to my quadcopter.

Ian.
Apr 07, 2010, 06:14 PM
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Hi Luca,

Thanks for the great rundown of the cameras you have used. One question: Does that webbie camera have live video out only when recording or does it also have live out when not recording as well (FPV cam only mode without recording)
Apr 08, 2010, 12:24 AM
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Hello,
the Sony Webbie have as far as I remember, video output active also with no recording active, but I will check it when I return home this evening.
Beware there are two Webbie model shape, I suggest this one the MHS-PM1:



Now it is really cheap, 84$ at Amazon
Apr 10, 2010, 03:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AnnihilaT
Hi Luca,

Thanks for the great rundown of the cameras you have used. One question: Does that webbie camera have live video out only when recording or does it also have live out when not recording as well (FPV cam only mode without recording)

Video out is on all the time, recording or not.
Apr 10, 2010, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by scrtsqrl
Video out is on all the time, recording or not.
Cool! thanks alot for letting me know!
Apr 11, 2010, 07:17 AM
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Beware that it shuts down after being in active for a while. For that reason, when I use it as my flight camera, it is always filming. It will do so for at least 15 minutes (the longest I've done so).
Apr 24, 2010, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by scrtsqrl
Beware that it shuts down after being in active for a while. For that reason, when I use it as my flight camera, it is always filming. It will do so for at least 15 minutes (the longest I've done so).
15 minutes is more than enough for me. Thank you.
Apr 24, 2010, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Steph280
I have a GoProHD on order, but can't help giving the Webbie a second look. The picture quality seems comparable, but with Webbie at almost 1/3 the price I could buy a few for crash replacement.
I pulled the trigger on two of the Webbie from ebay just for this reason, one as a back up.
Jun 25, 2010, 06:02 PM
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Does anyone know if the 2nd Gen. Vado HD has video out while on or filming so a TX can be connected? And has anyone tried hacking one to make it a smaller for factor or just change the angle of the lense?
J.


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