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Sep 27, 2011, 08:35 PM
Big Jim
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Hey Blu the wing span of the Assassin is 34 inches, Soon I will fly the big boys, this is close but it has no gear perma belly lander, or hand catch lol
Wait, Hold the phone my FBC 2 is 40 inches thats a big one lol
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Sep 27, 2011, 09:40 PM
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Check out my thread for a used HZ champ 50 dollars
Sep 27, 2011, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by RTF Thumper
Hey Blu the wing span of the Assassin is 34 inches, Soon I will fly the big boys, this is close but it has no gear perma belly lander, or hand catch lol
Wait, Hold the phone my FBC 2 is 40 inches thats a big one lol
You betcha Thump, that's plenty big. I'm sure I'll always stay below 50 unless I move in with you, Mac, or Viper! You poor guys have to put up with those tiny fields of yours. Isn't this hobby a blast? This is like motorcycles to me, but I can afford a lot more planes than bikes. I can't wait to take out the jug with the upgrades.

BTW, my T-28 um got attacked by a red tailed hawk today. Pretty close call but really was funny.

Blu
Sep 27, 2011, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Kerec6
Guess what??? 900 PAGES OF PURE CHAMP!!!!
Yes indeed! The Champ has staying power...that's why. Y'know, beginners needn't ask 'which plane should I get,' all they have to do is look for a plane with the most pages of discussion, the Champ and UM T-28 are right up there. People keep talking about planes that they love

I remotored my own Champ the other night and took it out the next morning. I left the rubber spinner off for a more scale look...big mistake, the poor thing was now obviously tail heavy. Held in plenty of forward stick and brought her in. I was slightly shocked at the power level of the new stock motor...after six months the old one had been getting tired, but so incrementally I barely noticed.

Evidently the three short tape strips behind the CG along with the lack of a spinner had shifted the balance aft a bit.

I reattached the spinner with canopy glue, and shoved a small steel nail into the foam at the front of the battery recess area to get as much of it as forward as possible but still not visible unless you look very carefully at the cowl flare on the bottom to see the head of the nail flush with the foam.

Easy...typical of the versatility of this great aircraft. I don't know if the weather will cooperate to get more morning flights in, but the Champ's ready to go, whether this week or next spring. An awesome airplane.
Sep 27, 2011, 10:49 PM
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Put some of the LtCols great little LED lights on the Champ today. First flight at dusk and it was awesome. Gonna go try it again in a few minutes before it is pitch dark. Only trouble if the temp is in the 30s and dropping fast.
Sep 27, 2011, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by WSEN
Put some of the LtCols great little LED lights on the Champ today. First flight at dusk and it was awesome. Gonna go try it again in a few minutes before it is pitch dark. Only trouble if the temp is in the 30s and dropping fast.
Know how you feel..
Sep 27, 2011, 11:25 PM
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ahhhh....great california
Sep 27, 2011, 11:32 PM
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Know how you feel..
Hi Fairbanks. Good to see some other Alaskans on here. Been using my wool fishing gloves that have the fingers bare to fly. Ha.
Sep 28, 2011, 07:48 AM
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nice wing


Quote:
Originally Posted by RTF Thumper
Hey Blu the wing span of the Assassin is 34 inches, Soon I will fly the big boys, this is close but it has no gear perma belly lander, or hand catch lol
Wait, Hold the phone my FBC 2 is 40 inches thats a big one lol
@RTF Thumper
Nice wing buddy looks good laminate turned out nice. I have the swift ll wing and love it lots a fun.I just got the dsm2 reciever in mine so getting it trimed up to use my new dx6i.Just got my stuff from HK man it take a while if you ordered batteries it takes longer cause they send it singapore post.I wish you lived near me so we could hook up and fly together.that would be cool.Good luck with your build....My blog has a vid not that great a vid i didnt have my 808 yet of my wing flying...Cheers Crash
Sep 28, 2011, 08:06 AM
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Still waiting on Champ parts, New fuse and Tail. The Vid looks great your girl did a great job keeping up with the plane at distant can be hard. The swift sur moves nice wing over roll and loop. As the months roll on I may fly Manny different planes. But nothing will replace the beloved Champ.
Sep 28, 2011, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by RTF Thumper
...Still waiting on Champ parts, New fuse and Tail...
Don't worry Thump, that new gear puller and UBEC should be there any day! (sorry RTF, I couldn't resist )

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Sep 28, 2011, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by RTF Thumper
Still waiting on Champ parts, New fuse and Tail. The Vid looks great your girl did a great job keeping up with the plane at distant can be hard. The swift sur moves nice wing over roll and loop. As the months roll on I may fly Manny different planes. But nothing will replace the beloved Champ.
Your right im doing a bl mod to one of my champs as we speak.The champ gets a lot of attention and the wife likes it so thats a bonus hehehe
Sep 28, 2011, 09:49 AM
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I sit. Here.. see thumpers all american built plane. And. All I can do is think of what I can do to improve, etc... well fly another day.
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Sep 28, 2011, 02:49 PM
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Just had a funny repair session repairing the tail of the Champ. Please tell me I'm not the only one that did this.

Installed the tail and stab and CA'ed it down. Made the conscious decision not to put the control horns on first, so I could make sure that the horns went on the right way. Installed the rudder horn, heard the "click" just as I realized I put it in the wrong way (because I could see the hole for the elevator and it was on the same side as I installed the rudder control horn). Grumble.

"How the heck to do you get the [email protected]&N thing off!?!", I said to myself.

After 10 minutes of struggling with it and trying not to break anything I popped the clip off with a hobby knife and it went flying across the room. Grumble.

"There's no WAY I'm buying another tail set just for that stupid clip!", I yelled at no one in particular. The cat took off out of the workshop.

After a 5 minute search and I found the clip. Installed both control horns and powered it up. "But, wait... the transmitter isn't reacting the right way... How did I cross the control rods?" Nope, that wasn't it. Wait, there's no way I can cross them... What? Oh. Grumble

Then I noticed the extra hinge tape on the top side of the elevator hinge. It dawned on me that I installed the tail upside down. That made the elevator hole on the wrong side, which is how I installed the whole thing wrong in the first place.
Sep 28, 2011, 03:21 PM
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I did all that.

If others are trying to take the tab off its best to possably put a peice of tape orwork in a box to not let that happen. white floor oh boy, I did that on video LOl.

After all is fixed. how do you feel now. I bet raring to go. goo dluk in getting her up tee again. keep us posted
Sep 28, 2011, 03:23 PM
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This morning Champ III (with 5-gram HobbyKing brushless motor, Spektrum AR6400LBL brick, 180mAh 2S 15C Lipo, AUW of 59 grams) gave me about a 60-degree almost-vertical climb until it was nearly out of sight (which didn't take long, tiny little sucker).

Let the good times roll!
Sep 28, 2011, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Little-Acorn
This morning Champ III (with 5-gram HobbyKing brushless motor, Spektrum AR6400LBL brick, 180mAh 2S 15C Lipo, AUW of 59 grams) gave me about a 60-degree almost-vertical climb until it was nearly out of sight (which didn't take long, tiny little sucker).

Let the good times roll!
We want to see video!



Ridgewalker
Sep 28, 2011, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by fishycomics
I did all that.

If others are trying to take the tab off its best to possably put a peice of tape orwork in a box to not let that happen. white floor oh boy, I did that on video LOl.

After all is fixed. how do you feel now. I bet raring to go. goo dluk in getting her up tee again. keep us posted
Whew! I'm glad it wasn't only me.

Yes, I'm raring to go, but I think I need to calm down first (or I will put it back in the tree!)
Sep 28, 2011, 08:20 PM
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how are you mounting the brushless motor?


How are you all mounting the brushless motors in the Champ? I had a lot of trouble finding a way to mount my little 5g Hextronik. I ended up mounting it to a block of epp foam and gluing that to the inside of the fuse. It wasn't stiff enough and the motor vibrated something fierce.

Thanks!

SB
Sep 28, 2011, 08:50 PM
Big Jim
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This was on Heads up RC website since we are Champaholics it thought it fit
Basic RC Flying Rules:
1. Try to stay in the middle of the air - do not go near the edges of it.
2. The edges of the air include the ground, buildings, water, trees and people.
3. It is very difficult to fly near the edges
Sep 28, 2011, 08:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RTF Thumper
This was on Heads up RC website since we are Champaholics it thought it fit
Basic RC Flying Rules:
1. Try to stay in the middle of the air - do not go near the edges of it.
2. The edges of the air include the ground, buildings, water, trees and people.
3. It is very difficult to fly near the edges
Now I understand why I have so many problems . I guess I'm a rule breaker, time to change my evil ways!

Blu
Sep 28, 2011, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by GooberSB
How are you all mounting the brushless motors in the Champ? I had a lot of trouble finding a way to mount my little 5g Hextronik. I ended up mounting it to a block of epp foam and gluing that to the inside of the fuse. It wasn't stiff enough and the motor vibrated something fierce.

Thanks!

SB
Here is how i mount mine,same foam that i use to make wheels.https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...postcount=1713

Ridgewalker








Sep 28, 2011, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Little-Acorn
This morning Champ III (with 5-gram HobbyKing brushless motor, Spektrum AR6400LBL brick, 180mAh 2S 15C Lipo, AUW of 59 grams) gave me about a 60-degree almost-vertical climb until it was nearly out of sight (which didn't take long, tiny little sucker).

Let the good times roll!
wow! i would like to see the video too!! it always makes me feel sooo little when i show up at the dedicated r/c plane park with the champ, and all the big boys are doing 3D stuff and i just try to stay out of their airspace....

i bet your champ would leave a bunch of pilots like this: while climbing up at 60 degrees
Sep 28, 2011, 09:55 PM
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Here is how i mount mine,same foam that i use to make wheels.https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...postcount=1713

Ridgewalker








I made those wheels, btw
Sep 28, 2011, 10:04 PM
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Cool!
Did they work out alright for you?

Ridgewalker
Sep 29, 2011, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ridgewalker
Cool!
Did they work out alright for you?

Ridgewalker
Yeah! my foam was a little flimsy, so I used spray glue to stiffen the foam.
Sep 29, 2011, 08:14 AM
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news


did anybody hear about some crazy guy trying to blow up the pentagon and the capitol by loading a champ with c-4 and a 808 camera?

nuts!
Sep 29, 2011, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by minchomexa
did anybody hear about some crazy guy trying to blow up the pentagon and the capitol by loading a champ with c-4 and a 808 camera?

nuts!
Sadly, the general public does not understand how ridiculous and delusional the claims of damage that guy made were. Gonna bring the government to it's knees by floating a foamie with some firecrackers into the Washington Monument. Yawn.

And even in the earliest of reports, clearly scrubbed and fed to the media, I (who is normally laughing at the conspiracy buffs) sure do detect a VERY strong wiff of the government seemingly railroading a very stupid and impressionable young loser to do all kinds of crazy crap. He was probably throwing these ideas out left and right to impress and please his 'masters' -- the undercovers who snared him in the for the very things they enabled.

No, I have a bad feeling that some idiots will blame this on the equipment, and want to regulate, license and stop RC gear in some way.


IMHO, it seems the watchers are going into very active mode so much that they are actually creating these situations lately. I haven't followed it at all, but I caught wind of what sounded very much like a similar potential entrapment blow-up situation with gun runners down on the boarder...

I am ready for the pendulum to swing back more towards normal.
Sep 29, 2011, 09:38 AM
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I haven't followed it at all, but I caught wind of what sounded very much like a similar potential entrapment blow-up situation with gun runners down on the boarder...

I am ready for the pendulum to swing back more towards normal.
Ah, 'Operation Fast and Furious,' I'm all too familiar. Yeah, these guys are jonesing to increase their budgets and power over the citizenry so they set all these unsavory deals up. Good thing the ones setting them up could easily pass for Barney Fife...they're invariably almost comically stupid.

Of course, we want to take back some of the power the Barneys have snatched, they're all cute and comical till someone gets hurt. Remember the episode of The Andy Griffith Show where Andy was out of town for a couple of days and Barney locked up the whole town?

Now the Barneys don't have a single .38 round in their shirt pockets, they have suppressed submachine guns, grenades and tanks. Andy has long since retired and the Barneys are everywhere looking for something to "nip in the bud."

But enough of this dismal talk...I just spent almost 2 hours at my parking lot, and almost an hour and a half was pure Champ flying goodness!

I noticed right away how much quieter the new motor is, and unmistakably more powerful. The 6 month old one I replaced went downhill so slowly and subtly I never noticed.

I also figured out why I had some tail heaviness left after pushing the 'steel' nail into the foam of the nose at the very front of the battery slot. It was an aluminum picture hanging nail...duh.

Now replaced by a couple of smaller but definitely steel nails and everything's copacetic. The Champ's balanced, flies like a dream, is almost dead quiet and I'm back to just under a half hour scale type flying with each Miniaviation.com 190mah cell.

What a delightful airplane.
Sep 29, 2011, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by mu2freighter
The Champ's balanced, flies like a dream, is almost dead quiet and I'm back to just under a half hour scale type flying with each Miniaviation.com 190mah cell.

What a delightful airplane.
Gotta love that Champ!

Sep 29, 2011, 09:51 AM
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well said! i sure hope things go back to normal and the regulators get de-regulated a little bit. im sick of all these fear tactics and smoke screens.

am i crazy to charge my lipos at work so they're ready by 4.30? champ is in the trunk just waiting...
Sep 29, 2011, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by tracknoob
Gotta love that Champ!

Bestest airplane ever in terms of fun and bang for the buck. Six months of good times flying off cruddy decrepit asphalt, zero crashes, no problems.

Now she's ready for another six months!
Sep 29, 2011, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by minchomexa
well said! i sure hope things go back to normal and the regulators get de-regulated a little bit. im sick of all these fear tactics and smoke screens.

am i crazy to charge my lipos at work so they're ready by 4.30? champ is in the trunk just waiting...
i keep all my lipos charged by default ... my understanding is that it's better to keep them charged if they are used regularly
Sep 29, 2011, 09:57 AM
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right telos81.

pre work flight--work--after work flight.

i keep a charger at work too!
Sep 29, 2011, 10:02 AM
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right telos81.

pre work flight--work--after work flight.

i keep a charger at work too!
haha, nice ... well then - no - you are not crazy to charge your batteries now
Sep 29, 2011, 10:07 AM
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haha, nice ... well then - no - you are not crazy to charge your batteries now
Dern tootin.'

To paraphrase Fabienne in Pulp Fiction...any time of the day is a good time for a Champ.
Sep 29, 2011, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by GooberSB
How are you all mounting the brushless motors in the Champ? I had a lot of trouble finding a way to mount my little 5g Hextronik. I ended up mounting it to a block of epp foam and gluing that to the inside of the fuse. It wasn't stiff enough and the motor vibrated something fierce.

Thanks!

SB
I used a small square of 1/16" plywood from the local hobby shop, mounted mostly vertically with 5-minute epoxy (the house-brand kind, also from the LHS, that doesn't smell bad or turn yellow like Devcon does). Used small #2 button-head screws (.050" allen-wrench drive) to bolt the 5-gram HobbyKing motor to the firewall - they were the only screws small enough to go thru the tiny holes in the motor's base.

Actually I cut some small wedges from 1/16 balsa to put behind the firewall, to angle it down about 5 degrees and right about 3 degrees. Doesn't seem to have helped much - the plane still zooms with full power. Though maybe now that it has twice the power, it's NOT zooming twice as much, so maybe the downthrust worked better than I thought?

One mistake I made, was that I forgot that when you put downthrust in a motor, the propeller sits a little lower. The 5" prop I used, kept nicking the pavement on its first takeoff roll, had to fly it off in three-point attitude, which is just begging for a stall. Now I'm using a 4-1/2" x 3 prop. Note to self: Next time, raise the motor on the firewall, dummy!

Man, it's nice to be able to put together a wooden engine mount without having to soak it in fuel-proof epoxy.....! I retired my last .010 a long time ago.
Sep 29, 2011, 11:18 AM
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Champ III can't quite climb vertically, it turns out. That 60-degree climb was about the best it can sustain over a long period, though of course it can zoom climb vertically for maybe 5-10 seconds before running out of airspeed.

It can do a snap roll of sorts, though. Slight dive to pick up speed, pull up to about 30 degrees climb, and slap the rudder over. Almost a Lomcevak... at least it sure LOOKS out of control!

Flying with the rudder on the left stick is more of a pain that I'd thought. I see ailerons in our future.
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Sep 29, 2011, 11:44 AM
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Fishy your editing skills are wonderful. Thanks
Sep 29, 2011, 11:47 AM
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Luv seein' those fishy comix!
Sep 29, 2011, 12:44 PM
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those are likeDots to me suger rush Lol.

making a offtopic vid. will post. why I carry a cam with me Lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fks3nEn7mCs
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Sep 29, 2011, 01:00 PM
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Check these out.
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show....php?t=1514024
Floats for the champ.
8 grams
not a kit - already built!
different colors
37 bucks--seems reasonable to me. Too bad summer is over here in Alaska.
Maybe I will get a set for use in Florida when we go on vacation in January!!
Last edited by WSEN; Sep 29, 2011 at 01:02 PM. Reason: corrected price
Sep 29, 2011, 01:52 PM
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I hear tell them thar floats work well on that nasty white stuff ya'll get, too.
Sep 29, 2011, 02:03 PM
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Hey Guys -- Been hanging around for awhile now but this is my first post. I got my Champ a couple of months ago, followed shortly by a T-28. I've really enjoyed reading all the posts, particularly from you regulars, and these forums have been a tremendous help on many occasions.

I like everyone's videos but I have to say, looking at all that countryside can get a little... repetitive. Here's my first attempt at some urban video footage. I'm working on some other things I'd like to do in different parts of the city, and hopefully there will be more to come.

Hobbyzone Champ over Grant Park, Chicago, w/ My Morning Jacket TMIGTS, Part 2 (4 min 25 sec)
Sep 29, 2011, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by gavronm
Hey Guys -- Been hanging around for awhile now but this is my first post. I got my Champ a couple of months ago, followed shortly by a T-28. I've really enjoyed reading all the posts, particularly from you regulars, and these forums have been a tremendous help on many occasions.

I like everyone's videos but I have to say, looking at all that countryside can get a little... repetitive. Here's my first attempt at some urban video footage. I'm working on some other things I'd like to do in different parts of the city, and hopefully there will be more to come.
Be careful flying a airplane in Chicago they have a habit of coming in the middle of the night and tearing up your runway..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meigs_Field

And now you have to worry about the FBI..

http://www.modelaircraft.org/news/RCPlot.aspx
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Sep 29, 2011, 02:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Little-Acorn
I used a small square of 1/16" plywood from the local hobby shop, mounted mostly vertically with 5-minute epoxy (the house-brand kind, also from the LHS, that doesn't smell bad or turn yellow like Devcon does). Used small #2 button-head screws (.050" allen-wrench drive) to bolt the 5-gram HobbyKing motor to the firewall - they were the only screws small enough to go thru the tiny holes in the motor's base.
Thanks for the idea.

Is your ply inside the fuselage? Does it extend up into the top half of the fuse when it is attached? The last question - did you have to remove some foam from the front area to get your ply down into it a little bit?

SB
Sep 29, 2011, 02:58 PM
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Enjoyed the clip. and just brought back a memory, "ROLLING MEADOWS" back in the Late 80' I remember a few places Ibeen tho, and there was a Field for Rc near there, here was a amll as well, that i wneet to , etc.. I was there for 3 months and WOW..

gret video and shots again.

There shot I like to do, but I am careful, and caution myself, of reasons. you may never know.
Sep 29, 2011, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ridgewalker
Here is how i mount mine,same foam that i use to make wheels.https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...postcount=1713
Thanks Ridgewalker.

I see that I cut away too much foam from the inside of the fuse so there was nothing vertical behind the motor mount that I could glue it to for stability.

SB
Sep 29, 2011, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by GooberSB
Thanks for the idea.

Is your ply inside the fuselage? Does it extend up into the top half of the fuse when it is attached? The last question - did you have to remove some foam from the front area to get your ply down into it a little bit?

SB
Yes, yes, and yes.

I worry that, with the amount of downthrust I put in, I might not be able to raise the back of the motor enough to keep the propeller in line with the original nose exit. Right now, it's about 1/4" below where the original prop shaft came out. And 1/4" is a LONG distance on a Champ!
Sep 29, 2011, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by fishycomics
those are likeDots to me suger rush Lol.

making a offtopic vid. will post. why I carry a cam with me Lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fks3nEn7mCs
Bravo!

I especially like the musical score selection -- pure artistry!

Much like our intrepid traveler, the fiddler seems to have wandered off the beaten path quite a bit, only to eventually find his way safely home again to the familiar and regular by the end of the piece!



Sep 29, 2011, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by GooberSB
Thanks Ridgewalker.

I see that I cut away too much foam from the inside of the fuse so there was nothing vertical behind the motor mount that I could glue it to for stability.

SB
Glue a couple of 1/16" balsa strips vertically to the sides of the (inside of) the cowl. The you can press the firewall against them, and use epoxy.

Worked for me!
Sep 29, 2011, 05:46 PM
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I saw a post a while back where someone listed the parts and vendor to build a champ from spare parts for about $50. Anyone remember where that is? I've searched a bit but can't seem to find it again.
I have an old um J-3 that needs a new fuse but I thought I'd replace the foam with the Champ and teach the boy to fly with it. Can't belive the J3 parts are nearly twice as expensive as the champ. Plus, it's harder to fly.
Sep 29, 2011, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by minchomexa
did anybody hear about some crazy guy trying to blow up the pentagon and the capitol by loading a champ with c-4 and a 808 camera?

nuts!
I did- he's crazy
Sep 29, 2011, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Kerec6
I did- he's crazy
It was a F-86,,, EDF,, like it was going to be able to carry anything... What a nut...
Sep 29, 2011, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Belem
I saw a post a while back where someone listed the parts and vendor to build a champ from spare parts for about $50. Anyone remember where that is? I've searched a bit but can't seem to find it again.
I have an old um J-3 that needs a new fuse but I thought I'd replace the foam with the Champ and teach the boy to fly with it. Can't belive the J3 parts are nearly twice as expensive as the champ. Plus, it's harder to fly.

give or take few dollars

Hopmeup.com

you get a fuse, tail kit and wing 20.00 less electronics, with electronics around 60.00
Sep 29, 2011, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Belem
I saw a post a while back where someone listed the parts and vendor to build a champ from spare parts for about $50. Anyone remember where that is? I've searched a bit but can't seem to find it again.
I pretty much did that with Champ III, buying the parts at my local hobby shop. Not a bad idea to support your LHS, though the prices might be slightly cheaper on Ebay. Wing, fuselage (comes with pushrods and pushrod ends), tailfeathers (comes with control horns), landing gear, and tailwheel. You supply the radio, motor, prop, and battery... though those can also be bought at the hobby shop.

ON EDIT:

Just looked up fishycomics' link, the wing, fuse, tail, and main gear come to $27.13 plus shipping from North Carolina. They didn't list a tailwheel. Not bad, though, for a fairly-complete airframe.

If I were doing it again (and I might! ), I'd get those, plus the Spektrum AR6400LBL brick, and hit HobbyKing.com for several 160mAh Turnigy nano-tech 1S batteries, and a bunch of their connectors ("Mini Plug Extention for Micro Battery 10cm") for those batteries so I can put two in series, and either a 5-gram brushless motor or maybe a "Turnigy 1400 Brushless Motor 2000kv" or an "AX1306N 2200kv Brushless Micro Motor (9g)", and a few GWS 5030 or 4030 props. Those are, to me, the idea combination of light weight and good power so you can either cruise in a mellow way at half throittle, or do steep climbs and stunts at higher throttle settings.

Might also get a HK-282A Single-screw, Ultra-Micro servo 2g to put ailerons on the Champ, if you want ailerons. But also get a 1N914 diode to put in the power lead of the servo, so it gets along well with the 5V that comes out of the brick.

Does it sound like I've been planning on doing those things? Naah, why would you think that......
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Sep 29, 2011, 07:53 PM
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options are endless. Hopmeup.com, ships mighty fast I ordered my parts Mon I got them today three days,

He has a ebay site, and online, packs well to.

Hedoes not charge shiping foradditional parts, meaning order as a bunch he gives a good price.

Now if you have parts already you lok up what you need, and that can be obtained at HH online compare full price, and you'll see a bug savings.

I will be doing a rebuild from scratch, and I will be doing switching parts over of old champ, as well a bricked champ. basically I will be covering the whole angle option, in one extensive video. will not be tomorrow but soon as HH gets my S here

champ cost 90.00
to build from scratch, purchasing some stuff can cost close to 90.00, having spare stuff around can cost a lot lot less.
Sep 29, 2011, 10:12 PM
Foam flogger
Thx all.
Sep 29, 2011, 10:45 PM
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Champ #2 has finally come back home from Santa's workshop at HH. It turns out Champ 2 had a very short life . They replaced him before he ever flew his 1st flight. Now Champ 3 is in the Bluhammer hanger, bound, rudder/aileron mixed, and tested. Now to prep him with a little special TLC and he'll be ready to maiden.

Blu is officially back in the Champ club again boys !
Sep 29, 2011, 11:09 PM
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Welcome back Blu. I just came in from flying mine. Dark-thirty, but the led lights made it sooooo much fun!! So calm after dark! Just ordered floats. Yahoo! (Hope they get here before the lakes freeze, ha.)
Sep 29, 2011, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by gavronm
Hey Guys -- Been hanging around for awhile now but this is my first post. I got my Champ a couple of months ago, followed shortly by a T-28. I've really enjoyed reading all the posts, particularly from you regulars, and these forums have been a tremendous help on many occasions.

I like everyone's videos but I have to say, looking at all that countryside can get a little... repetitive. Here's my first attempt at some urban video footage. I'm working on some other things I'd like to do in different parts of the city, and hopefully there will be more to come.

http://youtu.be/OE99i2L0PP4
Enjoyed the video! I've been planning one for San Francisco. My 1st tries were videoed from a Champ from the Oakland hills but the SF area was a bit too far for the camera to get very well. So next time I'm in the city and it's good weather I'll see if I can fly over by the Golden Gate bridge.

One of the coldest days in my life was standing on the roof of the Wacker building (just to the left of the Sears Tower) in Feb. At 16 below. Burrr. It was cool to look out over the completely frozen lake.

Blu
Sep 30, 2011, 03:17 AM
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Yeah one of my memroies was in aug summer, 2 weeks later 3 feet of snow, come home in November to 60 degree weather yep worsetransfer ever,but 23 years later here i am/

To fly today at sights I be a lil...................
Sep 30, 2011, 05:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluhammer
Champ #2 has finally come back home from Santa's workshop at HH. It turns out Champ 2 had a very short life . They replaced him before he ever flew his 1st flight. Now Champ 3 is in the Bluhammer hanger, bound, rudder/aileron mixed, and tested. Now to prep him with a little special TLC and he'll be ready to maiden.

Blu is officially back in the Champ club again boys !
Glad to see that it worked out for ya Blu
Sep 30, 2011, 07:40 AM
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Bbblu,, in da house
Sep 30, 2011, 12:07 PM
The lunatic is on the grass
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluhammer
Champ #2 has finally come back home from Santa's workshop at HH. It turns out Champ 2 had a very short life . They replaced him before he ever flew his 1st flight. Now Champ 3 is in the Bluhammer hanger, bound, rudder/aileron mixed, and tested. Now to prep him with a little special TLC and he'll be ready to maiden.

Blu is officially back in the Champ club again boys !
You were never gone...well in the Champ club that is.

Good to hear that the Champ #2 has been promoted to Champ #3,must feel great!

I always go back to the Champ,it's such a great plane,so easy to repair so easy and relaxing to fly and can be flown almost anywhere.

Would be nice to see you fly with the Golden Gate Bridge in the background,your videos are probably the closest i'll ever get to the Golden State.


Ridgewalker
Sep 30, 2011, 12:35 PM
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Dam U Bluhammer.
what did you do cast a magic spell on me!

Caught on video stay tuned. I hope.

Tic, toc, tic, toc
Sep 30, 2011, 12:59 PM
The lunatic is on the grass
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Time keeps on slipping,slipping,slipping...into the future...

Ridgewalker
Sep 30, 2011, 02:19 PM
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no harm was done to the Champ.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_k8I2zPtms
Sep 30, 2011, 04:10 PM
I am THE Registered User
ARrrgg its soooo windy! 50+ mph winds! I was thinking of flying, but later I realized that was a stupid idea...
Sep 30, 2011, 04:13 PM
I am THE Registered User
And wow fishy way to leave me out
Sep 30, 2011, 04:17 PM
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And wow fishy way to leave me out
yep why and more covers my fins

hard to remember on the spot , apologese to me
Sep 30, 2011, 05:34 PM
I am THE Registered User
lol I'm joking
Sep 30, 2011, 06:09 PM
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Fishy, your video is giving me flash backs to all my numerous crashes !

Lee, you got Miss Tina, no matter what happens you're good to go!

Ridge, cool cutting mat, looks very useful?

Blu
Sep 30, 2011, 06:22 PM
I hate winter!
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Fishycomics, EPIC FAIL [HD] (1 min 6 sec)
Sep 30, 2011, 06:30 PM
Flyin' low & slow T-28s!
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Originally Posted by Belem
I saw a post a while back where someone listed the parts and vendor to build a champ from spare parts for about $50. Anyone remember where that is? I've searched a bit but can't seem to find it again.
I have an old um J-3 that needs a new fuse but I thought I'd replace the foam with the Champ and teach the boy to fly with it. Can't belive the J3 parts are nearly twice as expensive as the champ. Plus, it's harder to fly.
wholesaletrains.com
Click on Hobbyzone (of course) then Champ, of course, then scroll beneath the description and you can click on a button that will only show Champ Parts.

Ah what the heck.....

Here ya go!
http://www.wholesaletrains.com/Airpl...e&Item=HBZ4900
Sep 30, 2011, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by MaladroitFL
wholesaletrains.com
Click on Hobbyzone (of course) then Champ, of course, then scroll beneath the description and you can click on a button that will only show Champ Parts.

Ah what the heck.....

Here ya go!
http://www.wholesaletrains.com/Airpl...e&Item=HBZ4900
How good is this company?
Sep 30, 2011, 06:46 PM
Flyin' low & slow T-28s!
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@Blu
Get that champ up and get us some vid, bro! I have my AWESOME stock tx here and will be flying Champ #2 in the AM.

@Lee
Hey Brother Lee, this Yankee loves you like family and will be praying for you and Miss Tina constantly. You will be fine. I too, am still struggling since I have trouble getting my bosses to check-off my work so my invoices can be rubber stamped. Despite pleas that we are really low on cash, it falls on deaf ears.

But I know you will come out okay, Lee. I've been in the sh !t house so many times I feel like I'm draggin a porta-potty around behind me.

You always come out the other end of even the darkest tunnel, man.
Sep 30, 2011, 06:47 PM
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How good is this company?

I have given then lots of money and never a problem.. Love the member pricing.. They don't tell you the shipping cost but I most of the time spend over 150 bucks and get free shipping with only a 2 dollar handling charge..
Sep 30, 2011, 06:55 PM
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Cool, will give them a shot. Going to order parts to build my second Champ.
Sep 30, 2011, 07:11 PM
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How good is this company?
peopleorder from who they get info from, and I found Hopmeup, was quite reasonable, his ebay site order 1, shipping is.. order 5 and shipping is free etc....

well he fluctuates in orcie but never over what others charge. and he seems to be the best prcie around, problem is can you trust him, Yes never had a issue, 2 days to my door, 3-4 days at my door at times , I am sure if something went wrong he'll back up the problem wit ha new part. called trust.

i think no matter who you order from, just make sure you check others out and not get ripped off. good luck. I stopped my order from them for reasons of shipping was not worth for me due to distance. I chose a closer person,
Sep 30, 2011, 07:47 PM
Diverted by planks
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Tonight I decided to just grab my Champ and my Mini-swift and head to the park at dusk, hoping to beat one little ribbon of thunderstorms moving through.

No helis needing to adjust. No hat or sunglasses needed since the sun was going down behind cloudy sky. No spycam videos to remember to start and stop and mount this time. No shakedown, or debug, or plan or agenda -- nothing other than a little simple pleasure time between a boy and his toys.

So I get to the park and figure the hotliner needs to go up first, to take advantage of remaining light, since the Champ has lights.

Last time I had nosed it in, but a little CA and some tweaking and it seemed okay. Well, the truth is it's now way down on power compared to original. The two good things about that are that it was a little overpowered for me to begin with, and that it's easy to control with less power. So I got in two great 8 minute flights with it, mostly at medium altitude, and gathering more confidence in my ability to control it. I did a little bit of gliding, and a few loops, but mostly just pattern, circles, low passes, and concentrated on keeping wings level and turns smooth. Perfect dead stick belly landings for both batteries.

Unfortunately the first battery I put in the Champ, the wind picked up and while at first it was fun to park it in one place overhead and watch it fight the gusts, eventually they ovepowered even full throttle, and as it went further downwind, I was unable to bring it back... rain started, gusts were very heavy, and eventually I just forced it to ground but keep it from going nose first. Very ugly, and then it blew around on the ground, I had to chase it! I know know how much wind is too much for even the spunky little Champ.

The good thing is this line on radar looked thin, so I drove to a place 10 minutes West, and sure enough after a short wait in car of 15 minutes, I was able to go out in only light sprinkles after storm passed. The light was beautiful, and even formed a double rainbow, with the Champ silhouetted against the clouds. No I did not freak out like the guy on you-tube, but I did enjoy the beauty of a deep blue sky, the Champ, the combo of puffy and dark clouds, with lightening in the East as it made its way around the field, and dusk started to settle back in.

As it darkened on the second, third and forth batteries, I was really enjoying the look of the LED lighting against the sky, and eventually, being about the only thing I could make out on the last battery!

I started doing some slow circuits and controlling altitude with the throttle, and making sure it was smooth and level -- none of that up-down-up-down porpoising at all today! I got confident enough to not only take off from ground (ground looped a couple times, but mostly got it right) but then to shoot my first ever touch and goes, most of them quite gentle and good, with only two or three leading to wild, too much elevator, near stall climb outs.

As night fell, I loved the look of the nav lights coming at me, with the white light in center, and the secure feeling of knowing which wing would go where when I moved the stick. I don't think I wrong thumbed it once on approach, even on those that I set up to pass right by me as touch down happened.

The times I botched it, I had not concentrated on setting up during the down wind leg to adjust speed and altitude for a 'short field approach'. I found (thanks to the real North Dakota flight school vids linked to here!) that when that part was executed well, the touch and go (or landings) went almost anti-climatic, esp since throttle off /low throttle characteristics of Champ, with no wind to speak of after the storms passed, was totally predictable!

In short, it was one of the most picturesque and successful outings I have had, and I don't feel one bit bad that I did not catch anyof it on video, since that would have brought a whole different dimension, including at least some self-consciousness and nervousness that was not there tonight.

I still intend to video a lot or even most of my outings as a learning tool, but it was great to just grab two planes, tub of batteries, one transmitter and hit the field!

That Champ is awesome, esp with the lighting added, and the Mini-swift is a whole different kind of fun, too!
Sep 30, 2011, 07:57 PM
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peopleorder from who they get info from, and I found Hopmeup, was quite reasonable, his ebay site order 1, shipping is.. order 5 and shipping is free etc....
Yea, their pretty good. I bought my RTF Champ from them on Ebay and got it to me in 3 days. I was going to order new parts to build my 2 champ but they don't have the wing in stock at the moment.
Sep 30, 2011, 08:48 PM
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I hear tell them thar floats work well on that nasty white stuff ya'll get, too.
Thanks, Olthump. That comment was good enough for me to order a set!
Oct 01, 2011, 07:54 AM
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champ #1 gutted


Hello champ brothers.I have my champ gutted and ready for the bl gear.

@ Ridge can you tell me what bitt you used on you champ when you trimmed the foam out dremal bitt?

@ wsen thanks again for blue hook & loop i like that stuff works good

@ Blu welcome back to the champ brotherhood man!!

@ fishycomics did you get the super cub lp yet? or did you dicide yet.

Been windy every day here in Indy so ive been building.Next week looks good though.
Good luck and flying to everyone I love my champs cheers .......CRASH
Oct 01, 2011, 08:12 AM
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Crash its ordered, still waiting. due to them not shipping same day they ship two days after . Lol. awaitng Cub.
Oct 01, 2011, 08:13 AM
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How good is this company?
Wholesale Trains is great! They get most of what I spend on this madness hobby.

Troutbum
Oct 01, 2011, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by tracknoob
No I did not freak out like the guy on you-tube, !
A priceless Moment, and all we get are memories in ou r minds, that are the best. What did we do when the net was not around, gone out flew more.


NAh that was not directed at me? Ha ha ha

enjoyed the clip note story

Oct 01, 2011, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by WSEN
Thanks, Olthump. That comment was good enough for me to order a set!
You're very welcome.
I grew up in the North, hated snow and cold from day one. I find hurricanes and ignorance to be a fair trade for 4 months of Fall and 4 months of Spring. Winter is 6 wks of rain, and the Azaleas are blooming by the second week of February. Summer is Hell.

Alaska fascinates me...on the Discovery Channel!

Sorry for the ot.

I Love My Champ!!!
Oct 01, 2011, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by fishycomics
Crash its ordered, still waiting. due to them not shipping same day they ship two days after . Lol. awaitng Cub.
I think you're really going to like and appreciate the Super Cub, fishy! It is a very stable, versatile, and adaptable aircraft - you will love it on first launch. And then you will begin to discover and innovate all of her possibilities (with your unique style of video, of course!). I'm looking forward to you getting it as much as you are!

Aeronca
Oct 01, 2011, 09:57 AM
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Thank you. taking time on it as not yet in hand
Oct 01, 2011, 10:28 AM
You're killin' me Smalls
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Just maidened my champ


Debated a new thread in beginner forum or chime in here (likely do both).

I'm now an official Champ flyer.

Was supposed to take daughter to soccer, but that got cancelled, field flooded. My buddy who hooked me into the hobby calls me asks if I want to fly, I haven't even had coffee yet. Brush teeth, throw on clothes, gather materials and planes, jump in his car.

My new 160 mAh Turnigy batteries came without velcro, so blue painter's masking tape is drafted to hold the pack in without destroying the foam. Battery pushed to the far front of the slot, off we go.

Go out to a field near my house, maybe 100 yards on a side, 40 foot trees on two sides (one of them the upwind side), with houses on the downwind and a residential side street on the final side. Damp grass, not too mushy, grass not too high.

Was worried about getting the manual out to bind it. Nope factory bound, all controls work fine. Am completely clueless about trim, the control surfaces look linear to their flight surfaces. When I toss the plane into the intermittent faint breeze, it looks to fly pretty straight for 10-15 feet or so, so I guess my trim is at least decent.

Away we go!

Throw it into the faint breeze and peg the throttle, and it climbs like it has someplace it needs to be and it's running late. Fly it around, trying to keep it steady and get more of a level flight and controlled turns without diving. Regularly get 50-75 feet up, go WOT and push it into a dive to then pull up and hit a loop. Awesome.

My buddy has his Champ and we're both flying in this field, occasionally near each other, and we both buzz the other pilot at least once or twice. He's got more flight time than me so he's more aggressive, I've flown 2-3 batteries in his plane but this is my maiden on my own plane and I'm more cautious. He's trying to land on the street or sidewalk, I'm trying to do level circuits at 10 feet or less.

Things I noticed/learned:
1- Breeze was much lower near the ground, you could see the breeze pick up as you gained altitude. We started before 9 and by a little after 10 the wind had picked up enough we knocked off with two fresh batteries left.

2- When I hand launched I noticed a slight slipping off to the left, but not sure if it's trim or how I threw it or even not throwing straight into the weak breeze. I need a trim tutorial most likely.

3- Bringing the plane down to low level without diving it was tough, it wants to float, even minor throttle was enough to keep it at least level. I may need to adjust trim to not be so "up and away". Advice on trim again is welcome.

4- You can run quite a while on low throttle. I reflexively was cruising except when I'd get altitude and nose into a dive for loops.

5- The 160 mAh make a huge difference. My buddy has 4 batteries between the stock and some 150 mAh he bought. When he ran out of his I let him use mine he was amazed. He said the plane basically flew right out of his hand, then grinned, pegged the throttle and hit 3-4 loops in a row.

6- I'm still prone to porpoising.

7- My reflexes on which way to run the throttle at low altitude are questionable and I often push throttle the wrong way, I get hung between chop throttle so it plops or try and pin it and pull out of it, and do the wrong thing.

8- Left the Tx on high sensititivity like it comes from the factory, seemed controllable, good training for using small control movements.

My wife drove by with the kids in the car on her way to the YMCA and stopped to chat, we showed off for them for a few minutes.

Had a few not quite controlled landings/borderline crashes. Not a scratch on the plane from any of them though.

All in all it was awesome, I'm really glad I got back into this hobby after an expensive crash on maiden when I was 10 or so trying to get into it.

Woot!
Oct 01, 2011, 10:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BrownEyedFool
Debated a new thread in beginner forum or chime in here (likely do both).

I'm now an official Champ flyer.

Was supposed to take daughter to soccer, but that got cancelled, field flooded. My buddy who hooked me into the hobby calls me asks if I want to fly, I haven't even had coffee yet. Brush teeth, throw on clothes, gather materials and planes, jump in his car.

My new 160 mAh Turnigy batteries came without velcro, so blue painter's masking tape is drafted to hold the pack in without destroying the foam. Battery pushed to the far front of the slot, off we go.

Go out to a field near my house, maybe 100 yards on a side, 40 foot trees on two sides (one of them the upwind side), with houses on the downwind and a residential side street on the final side. Damp grass, not too mushy, grass not too high.

Was worried about getting the manual out to bind it. Nope factory bound, all controls work fine. Am completely clueless about trim, the control surfaces look linear to their flight surfaces. When I toss the plane into the intermittent faint breeze, it looks to fly pretty straight for 10-15 feet or so, so I guess my trim is at least decent.

Away we go!

Throw it into the faint breeze and peg the throttle, and it climbs like it has someplace it needs to be and it's running late. Fly it around, trying to keep it steady and get more of a level flight and controlled turns without diving. Regularly get 50-75 feet up, go WOT and push it into a dive to then pull up and hit a loop. Awesome.

My buddy has his Champ and we're both flying in this field, occasionally near each other, and we both buzz the other pilot at least once or twice. He's got more flight time than me so he's more aggressive, I've flown 2-3 batteries in his plane but this is my maiden on my own plane and I'm more cautious. He's trying to land on the street or sidewalk, I'm trying to do level circuits at 10 feet or less.

Things I noticed/learned:
1- Breeze was much lower near the ground, you could see the breeze pick up as you gained altitude. We started before 9 and by a little after 10 the wind had picked up enough we knocked off with two fresh batteries left.

2- When I hand launched I noticed a slight slipping off to the left, but not sure if it's trim or how I threw it or even not throwing straight into the weak breeze. I need a trim tutorial most likely.

3- Bringing the plane down to low level without diving it was tough, it wants to float, even minor throttle was enough to keep it at least level. I may need to adjust trim to not be so "up and away". Advice on trim again is welcome.

4- You can run quite a while on low throttle. I reflexively was cruising except when I'd get altitude and nose into a dive for loops.

5- The 160 mAh make a huge difference. My buddy has 4 batteries between the stock and some 150 mAh he bought. When he ran out of his I let him use mine he was amazed. He said the plane basically flew right out of his hand, then grinned, pegged the throttle and hit 3-4 loops in a row.

6- I'm still prone to porpoising.

7- My reflexes on which way to run the throttle at low altitude are questionable and I often push throttle the wrong way, I get hung between chop throttle so it plops or try and pin it and pull out of it, and do the wrong thing.

8- Left the Tx on high sensititivity like it comes from the factory, seemed controllable, good training for using small control movements.

My wife drove by with the kids in the car on her way to the YMCA and stopped to chat, we showed off for them for a few minutes.

Had a few not quite controlled landings/borderline crashes. Not a scratch on the plane from any of them though.

All in all it was awesome, I'm really glad I got back into this hobby after an expensive crash on maiden when I was 10 or so trying to get into it.

Woot!
CONGRATULATIONS, BrownEyedFool and welcome to the Champ thread!!!
Much of what you described is somewhat typical for a new flier - except the inevitable crash that you obviously avoided !! So, again, congratulations and WELCOME!

Aeronca
Oct 01, 2011, 11:45 AM
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6- I'm still prone to porpoising.
Move the battery forward, and/or stick a very small nail in the foam at the nose.

If that doesn't help, crank in just a little down elevator. Do it with the radio's trim at first. If that works out, squeeze the loop in the end of the pushrod where it attaches to the elevator.

Welcome to Champdom!
Oct 01, 2011, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BrownEyedFool
Debated a new thread in beginner forum or chime in here (likely do both).

I'm now an official Champ flyer.


Woot!
Welcome to the champ, what a wonderful Plane it is. Get a 500 mah and a adp you be set. A lot of fun it is. enjoyed the write up.

Trim once the plane is trimmed you can fly anywhere in wind etc.. sometimes a lil trim is always needed. low wind med wind high wind we cannot see. so take caution and how she flys. you be fine good luck in keeping it kean.
Oct 01, 2011, 08:39 PM
You're killin' me Smalls
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Yeah I get the impression my experience was quite typical for a new pilot, still an absolute blast. I did have several hardish landings and one part cartwheel, but all in all I think I kept the plane right side up so to speak.

Will dork around with the trim next time I get a chance to fly.

Tonight's decision will revolve around the odds of flying tomorrow morning, do I charge up several batches of 4 on the Celectra tonight or wait until closer to flight time? I can sit and watch them while at the comp and then take them out and stick them in the small metal box my overly meticulous self purchased for them (Lowe's gift card box with window).
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Oct 01, 2011, 10:17 PM
BGR
BGR
Foam Junkie
Here is the champ with a E-Flite Park 180, I added a bit of weight for the larger battery and whatever else I though might increase the weight. The amps are the stated continuous max amps. probably what the motor will draw close to wide open throttle.

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Oct 01, 2011, 11:32 PM
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I taped a penny under the fuse in front of mine to cure the porpoising effect. It made all the diffrence for me. She flies level and mucho better! The trims just wouldnt work for mine as far as curing the porpiosing. The Champ is awesome! A ton of fun!!!
Oct 02, 2011, 12:08 AM
Big Jim
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Originally Posted by BrownEyedFool
Yeah I get the impression my experience was quite typical for a new pilot, still an absolute blast. I did have several hardish landings and one part cartwheel, but all in all I think I kept the plane right side up so to speak.

Will dork around with the trim next time I get a chance to fly.

Tonight's decision will revolve around the odds of flying tomorrow morning, do I charge up several batches of 4 on the Celectra tonight or wait until closer to flight time? I can sit and watch them while at the comp and then take them out and stick them in the small metal box my overly meticulous self purchased for them (Lowe's gift card box with window).
I would suggest always mechanical trim then sub trim (buttons) if needed and pinching the loop will put the down in. The elevator should be flat with the radio and plane on. So turn it on make sure that the sub trim is neutral then see where the elevator needs to go and with our Micros a little make a big difference.

Never try to trim on a windy day, and the plane at half throttle should fly level.
Oct 02, 2011, 12:16 AM
Big Jim
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BrownEyedFool
Yeah I get the impression my experience was quite typical for a new pilot, still an absolute blast. I did have several hardish landings and one part cartwheel, but all in all I think I kept the plane right side up so to speak.

Will dork around with the trim next time I get a chance to fly.

Tonight's decision will revolve around the odds of flying tomorrow morning, do I charge up several batches of 4 on the Celectra tonight or wait until closer to flight time? I can sit and watch them while at the comp and then take them out and stick them in the small metal box my overly meticulous self purchased for them (Lowe's gift card box with window).
Whether you have a coach or you are trying to learn to fly on your own, you
will need to be mindful of these six areas if you are going to become a
successful RC pilot. After two years of working with new flyer's at our club,
and coaching flyer's on the forums, there are a few things I have seen as the
key areas to stress for new pilots. Some get it right away and some have to
work at it. They are in no particular order because they all have to be
learned to be successful.

WIND= 0
Orientation
Speed = slow
Altitude = two mistakes high
Over Control = small gental inputs
Preflight Check = befor each flight, every time and take the time to do it right

Not my creation just good advice from a fellow pilot (aeajr)
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