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May 09, 2010, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by pval3

I just noticed your wings are transportable by breaking them in half
would you mind showing us how you did that...making the wings easy to transport is paramount for those with little cars here in the states . . . . .
If nasty nancy and hairy harry get their way we'll be driving even smaller ones real so0n!
sorry I don't have better picture,
it takes few seconds to pull the wing out of backpack, slide the rod,velcro in power pod and take off.
I don't use winglets at all, with electronic stabilizer small wings behave as 4x size.
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May 10, 2010, 10:16 AM
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what form of electronic stabilization are you using in your wings fmkit?
May 10, 2010, 10:59 AM
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same as used in quadrocopters: gyros and accelerometers
I think wings like 60" don't need that
May 10, 2010, 11:36 PM
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can you show us what these came out of . .I have no idea what a quad copter is . .
can you use a general heli gyro?? and how do you configure your set up

May 14, 2010, 02:30 AM
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Very interested.

I'm looking for a flying wing that can take on a FPV+GoPro, handle moderate winds. Fly slow and fast.

60" sound just right. EPP is good stuff.
May 15, 2010, 08:10 PM
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it has arrived
May 15, 2010, 08:22 PM
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a video of the opening party!

here it is guys
with a little help from my building helper!

mcw60_openbox_0001.wmv (2 min 15 sec)
Last edited by pval3; May 15, 2010 at 08:47 PM.
May 15, 2010, 08:36 PM
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did this fast guys
wanted to get something up as sooo000n as I opened the box . . and my daughter was not going to let me get it done without a little assistance from the peanut gallery!

everyone is getting into the excitement in my house . . .
we have been painting our foyer, kitchen, living room and hallway the last three days and it has been mahem in the house with all the workers and the cleaning crew afterward. . you never realize how much dust you get when they do drywall repairs . . .but we had dust everywhere. . all over the house on every floor. . we spent the entire day cleaning and dusting. . . it was a mess!
The box arrived at 4pm and we had company coming so I had no time to mess with it until this afternoon.

Here are my initial thoughts

It is big . . noticeably larger than the 48. The airfoil is thin. I mean very thin in relation to other MCW that I have built and thinner than other speed slopers I have built over the years.

The airfoil reminds me more of a hotliner than anything else . . . . .it is going to smoke!

The EPP is clean and seems a little more dense than some of the other stuff out on the market. Very smooth and the cut is absolutely pristine.

The wing is in 4 pieces (sane as the 48) and has the core beds but through so you can use them to set up the wing and keep it perfectly straight during construction (another reason that makes the MCW great for anyone to build novice or expert . . core beds that line up make it so there is no excuse for warped wings!

Very nice

Packaging was dented from shipping but the packing prevented the cores from being damaged. As usual - a custom cut box to fit the cores making transport a piece of cake!
May 15, 2010, 08:36 PM
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Thats great Phil, a new pilot is born LOL.

May 15, 2010, 08:44 PM
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Here are some motor ideas I have been pondering.
I would push it with some serious horsie . . . this thin wing could really take advantage of it. The disadvantage of the thin wing is that it is going to be real tough to fit a single 4s pack in the wing . .at least one that will handle the type of load that we are going to want to pull through it!
I have still been seriously considering using the Pulso 28 26 with a pylon type prop but may have second thoughts once I map the layout on this plane out.
Id consider using either the arc or the scorpion 30 series.
4s at least . . . no lower than 25C rated packs and at least 3000 mah each . .
break it down to two bays, one on either side of center with 2 2s packs in series
min 60-80amp esc
I like this one as an entry point . . cheap, handles tons of current and has several timing options that will allow you to go up to approx 41,000 rpm without timing issues (God I hope you dont push past this one )

on the higher kv inrunner and outrunner motors, push an apc 6X4 or graupner 6X4
on the outrunner lower kv motors, push a pylon type prop . . like an 7X8 or 8X8
the lower buck motors are great too, I tried to get you no slower than the 80mph range as the min entry point...
Here they are by price point.
70 buck motors
ARC-36-55mm Motors 36mm 1.5 turn

40 buck motors

el cheapo motors

just the mind dump of the model aeronautically insane!

More later
May 15, 2010, 09:03 PM
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here are some quicky pics of the cores from tip, mid and root
May 15, 2010, 09:24 PM
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more pictures

more pictures
May 15, 2010, 09:25 PM
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going to bed
early out to work in the am .
more when I get home!
May 16, 2010, 12:03 AM
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nice phil.. psyched on this one

Jeff the cores look fantastic.

May 16, 2010, 09:28 AM
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more pics

woke up at O dark thirty and couldnt wait to check out the actual cores!
If I cant wait, I know you guys cant either.
Almost late for work but . . .drove a little bit faster!
here are some pics

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