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Build Log
"The Rooster" Peter Rake's Samolot Kogutek | Prototype Build
After successfully building and flying the prototype 1:6 scale Andreasson BA4B, Pete was kind enough to turn me loose on his Samolot Kogutek.
Careful observers will note that an earlier attempt was made by none other than Mr. Rake himself, but that incomplete model suffered a sad fate in the hangar, details of which you'll have to get from the source as I'm sworn to secrecy. And a little Googling suggests that there may have been yet ANOTHER abortive attempt at a prototype build of this fascinating little airplane that also ended in mystery. None of this is surprising when you learn a bit about the back story of the full scale subject. If you read Polish, just click on over to: http://www.samoloty.ow.pl/str301.htm And here's Google's passable translation to English: http://translate.google.com/translat...tm&sl=pl&tl=en I'll net it out for you:
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Last edited by hoffboy; Feb 11, 2010 at 01:55 AM.
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Oh boy, another Polish plane! I`ll be watching this one closely.
![]() This birds got some funky lines to her. |
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Tim, be careful, Netty may read it
![]() I will leave all those little ply and balsa disks to you guys. A bit too much for me. I will get one of Sparky's engines and make it work when I need to see cylinders ![]() charlie |
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Cool! This is a neat plane, I've never heard of it before. Tim's right, it does have some funky lines!
In the rendering, is that vertical bar through the wing a lever for working the ailerons? That thing looks HUGE... Will that be a functional part of your model? J. B. |
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I have other renderings (I'll post later) that also show smaller posts at the leading edges of the control surfaces which act as horns, but also send rigging to at least three points on the control surface itself. Sexy and complicated! (Yet another possible Facebook status line for Hooper ![]() Pete's kit wing is flat bottomed and has a nice structural spar, so all rigging will be for scale effect, with the possible exception of the undercarriage, which might actually need the wires I plan to install if landings get...er...sudden. I believe it was Pat Lynch who thinned the last ribs on one of his models to trick the eye into seeing undercamber. I may be stealing yet ANOTHER trick from his bag. I don't intend to force ailerons into this small model, but I can easily imagine a scaled up version with proper thin, undercambered wings, full house controls, and scale linkages. |
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So what's the WS on this one? Is it an IPS size?
So that kingpost is just a rigging support for the wing, that makes sense. Thought it seemed way too big to be any sort of a horn. J. B. |
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![]() But we're apparently in agreement that this would make a very charming larger size model with full house controls. In answer to Led Zep's question, she'll have a 36" span. |
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Not at all mate. I, myself am currently working on a 12" span, profile scale version from Dorabatics foam - as per Classroom Fighter style. I have enough Plantraco gear for that and a slightly smaller (10") N11. Should make nice companions for my Zero and HM-8.
I quite agree, a larger, aileron equipped version would make a nice model. Pete |
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Turtle Deck and Cylinders
Turtle deck is a simple and fairly flat affair, but somehow I found myself needing pins, tape, AND rubber bands to hold it all in place. Trifecta!
While waiting for the fuse sides to finish drying, I got high on CA fumes gluing the cylinders. A nice scale touch. |
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Quick notes for Pete
Now that Pete's in the house, a few quick notes/comments, some of which might prove useful to future Rooster builders:
OK, back to the shop. |
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Okay, let's work through that list.
1. Wheel section isn't that far off scale. If you want shallower cones, and cones both sides of the wheel, feel free. 2. Yep, T13 is one piece, cut through after fin/rudder are built. 3. F3 uprights aren't intended to be doubled, but it won't do any harm. 4. F6A is now labelled. 5. I can't really see the need for an extra, extra X brace since the fin glues between pieces of block balsa. That should provide all the security needed. 6. F2B is now modified on both plan and cut file. 7. Fine, although I would have expected the block balsa to provide adequate support for these pieces. Fit it early, shape it later. 8. On my plan, the one your PDF was generated from, the u/c wires are labelled A and B at both places, but with an additional reminder of which is Front and which is Rear on the actual wire drawings. 9. Yep. 10. Don't forget to bend the ends of the u/c wires as shown in side view, for binding to skids. 11. U/c rigging will be functional, to prevent fore and aft movement. Pete |
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