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Jan 07, 2010, 11:00 AM
Not THAT Ira
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Higher HEalth Care Taxes If You Are Married


Sorry honey, we can't afford health care because we are married.....

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126281943134818675.html
Jan 07, 2010, 11:01 AM
Tu ne cede malis
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making health care more afforable, by raising it's price. the dem way to lower costs.
Jan 07, 2010, 11:05 AM
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More is less, less is more, truth is a lie and a lie is the truth.
Jan 07, 2010, 11:24 AM
Go get them Meg!
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Marriage has had a tax penalty since 1969 as a ramification of tax legislation created by the Democratic congress and signed into law by Richard Nixon.

It seems that it is only an issue for you when you can use it when you have a dull axe.

Or maybe you only pay attention when it suits.
Jan 07, 2010, 11:56 AM
Tu ne cede malis
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Healthcare has not had a tax penalty like this before. Hence the discussion of a new tax.

It seems ignoring the basics of discussing a new penalty are only an issue for you when it's snark time.
Jan 07, 2010, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by lrsudog View Post
Marriage has had a tax penalty since 1969 as a ramification of tax legislation created by the Democratic congress and signed into law by Richard Nixon.

It seems that it is only an issue for you when you can use it when you have a dull axe.

Or maybe you only pay attention when it suits.


Cute and nice try.

This is a whole new game and will be a huge new tax on married people.

Humm, why ever would the Dems want to do such a thing.......
Jan 08, 2010, 09:54 PM
Go get them Meg!
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Originally Posted by Real Ira View Post
Cute and nice try.
It is a fact regardless of your appreciation of its cuteness.

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This is a whole new game and will be a huge new tax on married people.
Sure, just like the one started forty years ago.

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Humm, why ever would the Dems want to do such a thing.......
To raise revenues.
Jan 08, 2010, 10:09 PM
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To raise revenues.

The only problem with that is.............I believe historical facts show that increased taxes have always 'decreased' revenues.




Don
Jan 08, 2010, 10:47 PM
Go get them Meg!
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The only problem with that is.............I believe historical facts show that increased taxes have always 'decreased' revenues.




Don
It would be neat if you could offer some support for your belief, but it really is not relevant to my point, is it?
Jan 08, 2010, 11:34 PM
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It would be neat if you could offer some support for your belief, but it really is not relevant to my point, is it?

Call New York...........they raised taxes on all the millionaires..........they all left the state.............now New york is in the same shape as California...........hmmmmmmmmm.......they raised taxes too..........people are leaving in droves.........California is bankrupt now.


You want exact figures, or are you capable of understanding whats happening here?



Don
Jan 08, 2010, 11:40 PM
Alarm Bells Softening!
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I think the unmarried couple should pay the same as the married couple, to reduce the burden on the taxpayers who are funding this boondoggle social welfare scheme. That said, married couples would be fools to stayed married if they get their health insurance via the government exchanges. Heck of a job Obamie!

Divorce! and spend that savings on a trip to Las Vegas!
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People who get their health insurance through an employer wouldn't be affected. Only people that buy subsidized insurance through new exchanges set up by the legislation stand to be impacted. About 17 million people would receive such subsidies in 2016 under the House plan, the Congressional Budget Office estimates.

The bills cap the annual amount people making less than 400% of the federal poverty level must pay for health insurance premiums, ranging from 1.5% of income for the poorest to 11% at the top end, under the House plan.

For an unmarried couple with income of $25,000 each, combined premiums would be capped at $3,076 per year, under the House bill. If the couple gets married, with a combined income of $50,000, their annual premium cap jumps to $5,160 -- a "penalty" of $2,084. Those figures were included in a memo prepared by House Republican staff.
Jan 09, 2010, 10:04 AM
Chillin till SEFF
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Government is big business. They are trying every little thing they can to come up with new/stealth ways to take more of our money. If you gave your kids an allowance and they spent it all the first day, would you give them more? They would come to expect it and soon you would be working two jobs just to keep them in iTunes
Jan 09, 2010, 11:01 AM
Go get them Meg!
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Originally Posted by don_87 View Post
Call New York...........they raised taxes on all the millionaires..........they all left the state.............now New york is in the same shape as California...........hmmmmmmmmm.......they raised taxes too..........people are leaving in droves.........California is bankrupt now.
California had relatively high taxes for 75 years and had high revenues until the recent economic recession.

Or do you not remember the nature of your own assertion?


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You want exact figures, or are you capable of understanding whats happening here?
I simply want you to offer compelling evidence (besides your feelings) that raising taxes results in lowering of State Revenues.

And believe me, anyone listening to your half baked conclusions and hearing your cynicism regarding education is capable of knowing "whats" happening here.
Jan 09, 2010, 11:43 AM
It's 5 O'clock Somewhere
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I wonder if same sex couples will complain that they don't get to pay as much in taxes as traditional married couples.
Jan 09, 2010, 01:56 PM
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California had relatively high taxes for 75 years and had high revenues until the recent economic recession.

Or do you not remember the nature of your own assertion?




I simply want you to offer compelling evidence (besides your feelings) that raising taxes results in lowering of State Revenues.

And believe me, anyone listening to your half baked conclusions and hearing your cynicism regarding education is capable of knowing "whats" happening here.
http://www.opinionjournal.com/column.../?id=110010798



http://www.bcnys.org/whatsnew/2001/1205taxh.htm
Last edited by don_87; Jan 09, 2010 at 02:03 PM.


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