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Old Jan 19, 2004, 04:30 PM
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Flying Models Plans


The February Issue of Flying Models is already on the stands, so the March issue should be coming out ust before or after the end of this month.

Flying models plans come as full sized folded copies of the original drawings. They are not in a digital format. You will have to make copies of the patterns for bulkheads, ribs, etc. or scan them if you wich to get them into a digital format.

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Old Jan 19, 2004, 07:52 PM
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To nogoer:

I chose ailerons in order to minimize dihedral. The Learjet has a bit of adverse yaw so I keep a shallow bank angle.
You could increase the dihedral and use a rudder, but the plans have no provision for a working rudder in the construction.

Thank you for you compliments.

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Old Jan 20, 2004, 08:57 AM
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Well if there is no rudder built into the design, maybe ill just build it as is. On the other hand i dont think it wouldbe terribly difficult to add rudder. I also just realized your prototype has no gear. Is there a provision on the plans for adding it if i choose to?

Sorry for the questions, i really should just bide my time until i can get ahold of these plans. I also hope someone with more experience starts a build thread.

Thanks
Old Jan 20, 2004, 01:22 PM
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Learjet 23


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Well if there is no rudder built into the design, maybe ill just build it as is. On the other hand i dont think it wouldbe terribly difficult to add rudder. I also just realized your prototype has no gear. Is there a provision on the plans for adding it if i choose to?

Sorry for the questions, i really should just bide my time until i can get ahold of these plans. I also hope someone with more experience starts a build thread.

Thanks
Nogoer: Questions are an essence of life!

You'll have to pretend there is a landing gear, but it's permanentely retracted. Weight was my primary concern when designing the Learjet and the gear would only add weight and drag. The location for the landing gears is indicated on the plan only. There are photos of the Learjet in the article that show a landing gear, but this is for static use only. It's not difficult to hand launch with only a light toss.
This isn't a "quick build" project, but very gratifying if you like 1/16" balsa.
And I'll be around should you want to build and have questions.
Old Jan 20, 2004, 01:32 PM
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David, is there any chance you've got some video of this little lear flying around?

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Old Jan 20, 2004, 01:39 PM
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David,

An absolute beauty. What county in NJ do you fly?

Our club is will likely host an AMA sanctioned E-Power event this year. We fly out of Coltsneck (Monmouth county)

Would really enjoy seeing this plane fly!

Bob.
Old Jan 20, 2004, 01:58 PM
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Martin:

I do have a VCR tape, but not sure how to place on this forum. The DVD of that tape is horrible and not worth much. Sorry I can't oblige you.

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Old Jan 20, 2004, 02:09 PM
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Learjet 23


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David,

An absolute beauty. What county in NJ do you fly?

Our club is will likely host an AMA sanctioned E-Power event this year. We fly out of Coltsneck (Monmouth county)

Would really enjoy seeing this plane fly!

Bob.

Thanks Bob. I'm in Monmouth County, Upperfreehold Twsp. Fly mostly at Mercer County R/C Club Field. I know your field and would like to accept your invitation when it gets warmer!

MCRC held an E-power fun fly last September and will probably hold it again this year. Will watch for your event.

David
Old Jan 20, 2004, 05:16 PM
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How to order


Those of you welcome modelers whom would like there hot hands on this flying beauty, advanced orders are being taken for the Lear23.

Order plan CD218, and the 03/04 issue of FLYING MODELS magazine. The two plan sheets are $16.00 and the magazine is $4.50 (6.50 in Canada), plus shipping and handling. If you prefer your plans rolled, be sure to ask for this special handling.

Call 973-383-3355 during normal EST business hours, or you can call our "order-only" hotline 800-474-6995.

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Old Jan 21, 2004, 12:32 PM
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Re: How to order


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Those of you welcome modelers whom would like there hot hands on this flying beauty, advanced orders are being taken for the Lear23.

Order plan CD218, and the 03/04 issue of FLYING MODELS magazine. The two plan sheets are $16.00 and the magazine is $4.50 (6.50 in Canada), plus shipping and handling. If you prefer your plans rolled, be sure to ask for this special handling.

Call 973-383-3355 during normal EST business hours, or you can call our "order-only" hotline 800-474-6995.

Michael...

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Is this real? Cant i just buy the mag off the shelve and save myself 16 dollars while still getting the same exact thing?
Old Jan 21, 2004, 12:42 PM
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Re: Re: How to order


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Is this real? Cant i just buy the mag off the shelve and save myself 16 dollars while still getting the same exact thing?
nogoer,

You probably could if the plan were full sized in the magazine, Flying Models only publishes the plan as a picture in the mag and sells the full sized plan thru mail order.

Cheers,

Eric Barnett
Old Jan 21, 2004, 01:18 PM
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Full size plan explained


The highly detailed and intricate full-size plans for the David A. Ramsey sport scale EDF Gates Learjet 23 are on two quality paper sheets that are about four feet by three feet in size. Part templates are conveniently grouped for pattern making, and details are clearly shown for recreating the scale graphics. Crisp technical drawing and cleanly written callouts positively explain the construction tasks at hand. Coupled with the 20+ photo illustrated, eight page construction article, the guesswork is all but eliminated for building this unique flying model.

Reduced images of the plan are shown in the article for illustrative purposes. Checking out the magazine first isn't such a bad idea.

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Old Jan 21, 2004, 01:50 PM
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Re: Learjet 23


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MCRC held an E-power fun fly last September and will probably hold it again this year. Will watch for your event.
David,
Thats great, and I'm with you on the warm weather

Let me ask you, I moved down here 7 years ago from Bergen County. We flew over at the Model Air Dome, part of Palisades County park. Was a great spot with 300 foot paved runway.

Question, where near us can I find a paved runway? I sure do miss it.

Looking forward to meeting you in the future.
Old Jan 21, 2004, 02:05 PM
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nogoer,

You probably could if the plan were full sized in the magazine, Flying Models only publishes the plan as a picture in the mag and sells the full sized plan thru mail order.

Cheers,

Eric Barnett
Ah Ha! That explains alot. I was under the impression the full size plans were somehow included in the mag. I dont think i have the experience to try and properly enlarge a magazine photo. Looks like im going back to trying to find a kit of a prop twin instead.
Old Jan 22, 2004, 11:17 AM
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FMN Plans


I have built from their plans before... its worth the extra for the details and patterns... I HAVE done it the hard way ( AD-1 by Gus Morfis... ) ... as a former 24 driver you can be sure this is going to be a fav!!! ( Lear Mantra: 410 or we don't go!!!)


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