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Old Oct 15, 2009, 04:20 PM
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Hal, they are dropping in prices, here's one if you live in the US
http://www.miracle-mart.com/store/in...oducts_id=2889

we have a shop here that their prices are dropping too! I don't know why they are dropping but they are, also the ep200.

May be a t250 v3 is coming out soon?
This is the cheaper version (without servos).
Not much of a deal.
I bought one with 3 servos for $150.00 plus $30.00 shipping, and
the super combo w/ 4 servos and GP750 gyro for $310.00 shipped.
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Old Oct 15, 2009, 04:40 PM
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$149 plus shipping from HK.... but you do get the motor, ESC, and blades that you'd have to get with a clone. Plus the pinion would be the right size this way VS getting the Turnigy like I did that is 2.3mm. But the GT, motor, and ESC was $81 plus shipping so....

But with the Align it would have been a no issue build (or at least less issues).
Old Oct 15, 2009, 04:46 PM
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Well, I've bought the HK250GT, and while it seems like a good deal (based on the cost of the kit), I don't think it is....

The kit w/ shipping is $83.00 ($57.77 + $25.95 EMS or $12.12 air mail)

Now if you break it down....

Let's say you spent $57.77 and you went with the cheaper shipping at $12.12
(all costs include the shipping)
Helicopter kit $69.89
Motor and esc $29.07
4 align (or any brand) digital servos $100.00 (minimum)
Futaba 401 or align GP750 gyro $100.00 (eBay)

Total = $298.96

Granted, it is a fairly complete kit, but there are problems with it.
Namely the bearing replacement needed for the head ($5.00 and some labor).
The fiberglass canopy on both of mine (I bought two kits) were barely usable (mis-shaped).
The tail has more play in it (compared to the align kit).
The blades are cheap.
I haven't flown it yet, so I don't know if there will be additional problems (like with the belt, and other parts).
Replacing the feathering shaft and main shaft has been talked about in this and other threads. The bearings aren't as good as the align bearings.

Now you can save money by using cheap servos and a cheap gyro, but what did you really save over just buying an Align Trex 250 Super combo, with everything included?

I bought two of them for $305-310 shipped from a Hong Kong dealer on eBay, and it is a superior kit to this HK version.

I'm not complaining, I'm just pointing out to others what I have observed, and have come to the conclusion (for myself) that I would have been better off just buying align kits from the start....
Now I have 2 Align 250's and 2 HK 250's.
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Old Oct 15, 2009, 05:15 PM
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I'm kinda with you on that one, but if you crash a lot, it wouldn't be ideal. Would you use an uninsured Porsche or a Maseratti? I'm sure you would use a hyundai, and work your way up.
Old Oct 15, 2009, 05:21 PM
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I'm kinda with you on that one, but if you crash a lot, it wouldn't be ideal. Would you use an uninsured Porsche or a Maseratti? I'm sure you would use a hyundai, and work your way up.
Do you have insurance on you heli's?
What does a roasted chicken cost?

BTW, I do have a Porsche. But I still fail to understand what this has anything to do with driving with insurance or the cost of bbq chicken...
Old Oct 15, 2009, 05:23 PM
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depends where you buy it from
Old Oct 15, 2009, 05:25 PM
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You might be a good heli pilot, but I'm not. I'll crash, I wont plan to, But I know I will. So what's the point of having the state of the art, when it's going to hit the ground HARD! Until my skill level goes up, then I move up. I'm sure the rest here are in a similar boat. There is a market for people like me. And that's just how it is.
Old Oct 15, 2009, 05:29 PM
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You might be a good heli pilot, but I'm not. I'll crash, I wont plan to, But I know I will. So what's the point of having the state of the art, when it's going to hit the ground HARD! Until my skill level goes up, then I move up. I'm sure the rest here are in a similar boat. There is a market for people like me. And that's just how it is.
It's gonna cost the same to repair either helicopter, so your point is lost on me.
You can use cheap parts or align parts to repair either one, there doesn't seem be be a cost difference. That's my point - BOTH HELICOPTERS COST THE SAME.
Old Oct 15, 2009, 05:31 PM
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repair? it's only a $30 heli, with $50 electronics. I've got 7 more helis RTF. I use the left overs as spares.
Old Oct 15, 2009, 05:34 PM
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I kinda understand terma-nators point. Because when you crash the hk250 you will more than likely replace the broken parts with align parts so the cost of crashing both the hk250 and the align t250 will be the same. Most people that own the clones always go with the align parts for there upgrades. So to me it just makes sence to go with the align in the first place.
Old Oct 15, 2009, 05:35 PM
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repair? it's only a $30 heli, with $50 electronics. I've got 7 more helis RTF. I use the left overs as spares.
OH, I thought you had the 250GT (since that was what MY post was talking about)
The 250GT is an $80.00 helicopter (w/shipping)
Since you're using crappy electronics, you can't compare your heli with
what most people are putting in theirs.

Cheaper servos and gyros have a higher failure rate, so you WILL crash more.
Old Oct 15, 2009, 05:36 PM
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ohh I forgot to add I got 7 more to build on top. That's from the money I saved from buying an original. It's just my flying style that kills my wallet. Those tic tocs are really hard to do. :P
Old Oct 15, 2009, 05:41 PM
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OH, I thought you had the 250GT (since that was what MY post was talking about)
The 250GT is an $80.00 helicopter (w/shipping)
Since you're using crappy electronics, you can't compare your heli with
what most people are putting in theirs.

Cheaper servos and gyros have a higher failure rate, so you WILL crash more.

Nahh it's flying style. I fly hard so it crashes hard. So it all comes down, just like everything else. Use what works for you.
Old Oct 15, 2009, 05:45 PM
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For me it was 45 for the HK250GT vs 145..didnt take very long to decide
Old Oct 15, 2009, 05:49 PM
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But I'm kinda with Terma-nator. I know what he's saying. It's true for the GT you are better off with the real deal. But I have all. Like I discussed with some people before you are better off with the real deal, considering the prices you pay for the GT. That's why the GT and all the other cnc 250 clones would drop. It's just too high of a price. For the same price $60 I can get a Copterx AE. I dont see the logic there?


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