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Jun 29, 2009, 05:11 PM
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A looooong build - Balsa USA 1/4 scale SPAD XIII

As I mentioned in my Bison thread, after the good fortune of winning a kit from Balsa USA, choosing ONE is not easy.
"If Pat really wants help from the minions, I'd have trouble narrowing it down to one!" - exactly James - many folk seem to have a bunch of them on their shelves!

Firstly, I'd want to electrify it - not so difficult now days but an interesting exercise would be lightening it a little. Turning it into a Rake or Tritle design

The heavier kits - SE5a, SPAD XIII and DVII need more grunt hence expense but any of the rest should be simple. The Nieuports and Pup are straightforward builds and apparently fly well.

The DVII offers most scope for detailing (that engine) but I have to admit, the Nieuport 28 is a nice looking airplane. I'm not sure if I'm ready for a DR1 yet but is smaller size is appealing - same with the Nieuport 11 Bebe. The N28 was only used by the US but has a rather nice colour scheme. Any comments on the type as a model? Short nose, long tail moment etc....

The N17 is already 'electric ready' and is a newer design kit and could be modded to N 17 bis and others.

So a dilemma Too much choice.

Any more opinions? I'll do a sloooowww build thread here just for fun (and appreciation)


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Jun 29, 2009, 05:31 PM
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I for one would go all out....1/4 Scale De Haviland DH-4

looks like it would be easy to electrify, just make the entire engine cover your battery hatch.

Jun 29, 2009, 05:41 PM
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Jun 29, 2009, 06:55 PM
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Gotta give my nod for the Nieuport 17.
Jun 29, 2009, 07:00 PM
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Some of the BalsaUSA kits have been somewhat "massaged" in order to make them better flying. I think the Nieuport 28 is reasonably accurate. Yes, it's been done, but unless your field is over-run with N.28s (!), that would be the one I'd choose.

Jun 29, 2009, 07:38 PM
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Cogitating on your ruminating, Pat, I'm beginning to lean toward the Pup or the N17. My only thoughts against the Nieuports (at least the 11 & 17) would be those "delicate" lower wings and your flying field! Other than that, the Nieuports would be worth a shot. As for engine detailing, how 'bout tricking out those rotaries and have them spin like real?

I do have a liking for the DH-4, and if I were to do one, I'd try to duplicate one of those modified with Bellanca wings. However, it seems the motor may need to be bigger for the DH-4 than the above-mentioned craft. Like the DVII, of course, it may be easier to balance compared to the short-nosed rotary-powered types!

So, it looks like I narrowed down my "picks" to two. I think.

Jun 29, 2009, 07:44 PM
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Since you've already got several elves and one grumpy French Gnome, put the Gnome to work with the Nieuport! And here's a nice, HEAVY motor you could use to balance that short nose - flown at about 10% power.

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Jun 29, 2009, 08:33 PM
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My preferences

Bristol M1C
Nieuport 28
Morane-Saulnier AI

In that order.

Jun 29, 2009, 08:35 PM
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Nieuport ! C'est tres elegantish.
Jun 29, 2009, 10:37 PM
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Congrats on the lucky win!

That is a tough choice. I'm might be partial to the N17, especially since it is a newer kit and if it has an electric option available. Though I'd be tempted to use a gas engine. (Can you tell I've also thought about a big biplane from these guys?)

Here's a utube which shows how "easy" a build it is.

Nieuport 17 1/4 scale (0 min 53 sec)

Look forward to vicariously following along with whatever you choose. My big biplane will have to wait a little longer....

Jun 29, 2009, 10:41 PM
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Forgot, start saving your pennies for the batteries
Jun 30, 2009, 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by portablevcb
Forgot, start saving your pennies for the batteries
Hehe! How about some Leyden jars? (okay, maybe that's not quite realistic...)

Jun 30, 2009, 07:27 AM
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Pat, I'd consider the newer N.17 but convert it to a N.27 & you could choose between French, British, Italian or USAS colors. :-()

Jun 30, 2009, 09:40 AM
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Well one good thing at least...Pat won't be covering THIS one in Litespan; I might get the chance to buy a few packs of cream now the coast is clear Solartex would be good for this size model but I shudder at the cost!

DVII is the one for detail and colour schemes, but if it's a solid flyer that's wanted then the Pup is hard to beat at any size.

Jun 30, 2009, 02:30 PM
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If it were MY choice...

Always a favorite of mine, and you needn't spend the rest of your life painting 'lozenges' for some color schemes...

Pete G

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