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Old Feb 17, 2013, 03:41 PM
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Can we see a picture ?
Here is that home made diesel I got off E-bay in a bulk lot. Pictured with it is what appears to be an ME Heron, but you will see it's got a home made crankcase. I like these "one offs" and have a few of them.
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Old Feb 17, 2013, 09:12 PM
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Kakariki, Krafty, welcome to the diesel thread. It’s always nice to hear from other interested modelers.

Reginald, your engine collection is just amazing. That Edgar Westbury twin, the Ladybird is a really unique looking engine. How big is it? The top end looks like Mills muffins, so maybe 2 x.75 or 1.5 cc ?

Brian, I think that’s what a lot us like to do. When I was a kid, every motor I got, I just mounted it and ran it for the sake of running it. Even later in life I used to run small diesels in the basement. I piped the exhaust into a bottle of water; it kept them quiet and kept the smell down.
I’m not having much luck with diesel fuel. The starting fluid just doesn’t seem to have enough ether in it. I even tried the liquid straight from a can (not JD) and at best got only a few small “pops”. A small batch of fuel made with “pure ethyl ether” used at 33% worked ok.
Old Feb 18, 2013, 04:36 AM
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Yeah John, unfortunately, ether is a big problem for all of us.
I have a couple of leads to follow up to obtain ether in France but, if they don't work, I shall probably drive to the UK and come back with enough ether for the rest of my life!
Old Feb 18, 2013, 07:18 AM
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I found a nice exploded view of the 18 cc Lohmann bicycle diesel.....

Old Feb 18, 2013, 10:01 AM
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No ether required, larger model diesel engine coming soon ?


Gluehand, now if only they still made that small diesel. Well perhaps there is a new one coming. Buy the car, take out diesel and give the car away....you have a large model diesel engine, which probably won't need ether....

Well here's another possibility
CHINA'S NEW "LITTLE CAR" aka "THE HIGHWAY SUPPOSITORY"
Here's a one seater car that will get you back and forth to work on the cheap...
This $600 Volkswagen's car gets 258 mpg, 109.687 km/l or 0,9 liter per 100 km!!!

This $600 car is not a toy; it is ready to be released in China next year.
The single seater aero car totes VW (Volkswagen) branding.
Volkswagen did a lot of very highly protected testing of this car in Germany; it was not announced until now where the car would make its first appearance...
The car was introduced at the VW stockholders meeting as the most economical car in the world !
The initial objective of the prototype was to prove that 1 liter of fuel could deliver 100 kilometers of travel.

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Its Spartan interior does not sacrifice safety; the impact and roll-over protection is comparable to a GT racing cars.
The aero design proved essential to getting the desired result.
The body is 3.47 meters long and just 1.25 meters wide, and a little over a meter high.The prototype was made completely of carbon fiber and is not painted to save weight.
The power plant is a one cylinder diesel, positioned ahead of the rear axle and combined with an automatic shift controlled by a knob in the interior.
The Most Economic Car in the World will be on sale next year:
Better than Electric Car – 258 miles/gallon: IPO 2010 in Shanghai
This is a single-seat car
From conception to production: 3 years and the company is headquartered in Hamburg , Germany .
Will be selling for 4000 Yuan, equivalent to US $600..
Gas tank capacity = 1.7 gallons
Speed = 62 – 74.6 Miles/hour
Fuel efficiency = 258 miles/gallon
Travel distance with a full tank = 404 miles or 646 km !!!
Old Feb 18, 2013, 12:00 PM
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John, you must be old enough to remember bubble cars.
Looks like an updated remake to me...
Old Feb 18, 2013, 03:09 PM
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Yup, 1946 vintage. I can vaguely remember, what I though where strange looking little cars. Some had the head lights that looked like “eyes”. The back wheels were small and close together. The front swung open and I guess you had to “back in” to sit down. I don’t remember seeing many. Most cars “over here” back then weren’t very small. My mother did have a Morris Minor which seemed small, but could carry four people. My dad had a 49 Studebaker Starlight coup which could really fly. It had an over drive and would happily cruse at 85 mph. And I can’t remember the cost of fuel back then, but I remember back in the early 60s gasoline was 25 cents/ US gallon. Now I’m paying $1.30 + per 1 L, which I guess isn’t too bad when compared to other parts of the world.
Old Feb 18, 2013, 03:25 PM
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messerschmitt car


There was quite a few such cars at the time
Old Top Gear 1992 - Messerschmitt Bubble Cars (4 min 21 sec)

Messerschmitt Car (0 min 44 sec)
Old Feb 18, 2013, 06:20 PM
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"Mate" 2 cc DIY diesel


An example of what is colloquially known as the "Czech-Mate". Twenty or so constructed from Owen Engines Australia kits by Ladislav Davidovich. Sold via Stu Richmond in the U.S. in the 1990's.
Old Feb 19, 2013, 07:21 AM
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An example of what is colloquially known as the "Czech-Mate". Twenty or so constructed from Owen Engines Australia kits by Ladislav Davidovich. Sold via Stu Richmond in the U.S. in the 1990's.
And just as a contrast with these oh-so-pristine pictures, here is my own version of the 2cc David Owen designed "Mate" after many happy flying hours. I built mine way back in 1990. The power that these can put out depends to a great extent on the internal fits and finishes. Sadly the case extrusions went out of stock many moons ago.
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 10:14 AM
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There was quite a few such cars at the time
Even the UK and USA got in the act! http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...QEwBw&dur=7764 http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...QEwAw&dur=6884 However, they weren't diesels.
Old Feb 19, 2013, 10:36 AM
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Thank GeoffinIN for these interesting links
Old Feb 19, 2013, 12:39 PM
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One of the coolest.....a Brutsch 'Mopetta'



Ok...ok....I'm going 'diesel' now....
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Old Feb 19, 2013, 06:13 PM
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Yeah John, unfortunately, ether is a big problem for all of us.
I have a couple of leads to follow up to obtain ether in France but, if they don't work, I shall probably drive to the UK and come back with enough ether for the rest of my life!
There's no problem buying ether from a pharmacist or drugstore over here, as long as they know what it will be used for.
Old Feb 19, 2013, 07:30 PM
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If you supply a suitable fuel container with the oil and kero already in it and ask for them to add the ether would that be permitted ? you may have to try an industrial chemist,a few phone calls may be needed.


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