Mar 16, 2011, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by NX-687 View Post
Can you really start them with no ether fuel and an electric starter as in You tube ????? Ive never tried
Just kero and castor ?
I know of one compression ignition engine that runs on kero/oil only.....the fascinating LOHMANN bicycle motor from early 50's...
The little 18 cc Lohmann has variable compression, just like a model engine.

Sorry for re-posting these pics in the same thread...it's a cool device though...

Starting a smaller diesel without ether may be more tricky (I haven't tried it though)


I wouldn't advice use of an electric starter on a smaller diesel...it's simply too easy to damage the conrod/crankweb.
Practising the ®diesel flick' is recommendable...you'll never look back...
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Mar 16, 2011, 08:05 PM
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Glue hand


That is amazing , so it can
be done , only I like the smell of Ether , and could


you tell me what the other small ingredients are , not the Amyl nitrate although

that probably smelt good , there is another one I would like to get for the smell

but the name escapes me
Mar 16, 2011, 08:11 PM
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Schlosser , last of the pictures


Here's the last outside pictures until we visit the insides.
Mar 16, 2011, 08:17 PM
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Schlosser diesel .5cc R/C


Schlosser .5 cc RC diesel vs PAW .5 cc
See the Pee Wee box for size.

These little gems will never see an electric starter.
Mar 16, 2011, 10:57 PM
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John, why does it look like the Schlosser has a loose head screw?

Greg
Mar 17, 2011, 12:10 AM
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Electric starter? On a diesel?? Blasphemy! To say nothing of bent rods, busted cranks, etc...
Mar 17, 2011, 11:40 AM
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I just got in a couple of new MP-Jet model diesel replica engines. A MP Jet .040 PB and a 1.8cc Atom engine.
I plan on running them this weekend if I get the time.







Mar 17, 2011, 03:47 PM
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Loose head bolt


Gkamysz (Greg) for the loose head bolt, see page 116 post #1736. Sorry, I didnít realize the postings were going to get so stretched out and far apart.
Iím not really trying to see if everyone is following along! Youíre the first to notice and ask. Iíve taken (was taking) the Schlosser apart to have a look inside. It has very nice, modern porting, show everyone later.
John
Mar 17, 2011, 07:47 PM
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Earlwb, your new MP-Jet model diesel replica engines look great. How about putting them together, the MP Jet .040 PB and a 1.8cc Atom engine for size comparison? Any chance you might make us a video of them running, we would love to see it.
John
Mar 17, 2011, 09:06 PM
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Like this?

MP Jet .040 PB compared to the MP Jet 1.8cc Atom model diesel engines


Comparing a .75cc Mills replica with the MP Jet .040 PB engine


Comparing a Mills .75cc with the MP Jet .040 PB and the MP Jet 1.8cc Atom


Comparing the Clan .48cc diesel with the Mills .75cc diesel


Comparing all four small diesel engines:
Last edited by earlwb; Mar 17, 2011 at 09:13 PM.
Mar 18, 2011, 03:30 AM
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Nice Tribe


Wish I had a few , but my Silver Swallow will have to do and it fired up better with fresh fuel, hope its calm tomorrow, its no Mk17 I like the quirky chinese engines it gives me some scope to do a little machining on them
Mar 18, 2011, 06:11 PM
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Earlwb, that's a very good comparison. The Atom is a lot bigger than I thought it would be for 1.8 cc. Those are all great looking diesels. What size props are suggested for them?
John
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Mar 18, 2011, 09:16 PM
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They suggest a 11/5 or 12/5 prop for the 1.8cc Atom engine.
and for .040 PB engine a 7/3, 7/4 or 8/3 or 8/4 prop.

I also scanned in the instructions and put them here:
1.8 Atom English
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...structions.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...ructions-1.jpg

Czech:
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...ructions-2.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...ructions-3.jpg

.040 PB English
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...structions.jpg

Czech:
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...ructions-1.jpg
Mar 19, 2011, 05:57 AM
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Earlwb, you’re making these diesels look very tempting. Not only do they look great, and appear to be well made, but they should be excellent runners. The Atom (1.8 cc) specs listed a 12x5 prop at 6500 rpm! That’s a very “torque” little diesel. Did you get them in the US or over seas? Thanks.
John
Mar 19, 2011, 07:52 AM
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This type of design in model engines had very long strokes in comparison to the bore. Plus they are a side port design. So they do not rev up high. Back then even the ignition engines did not rev up high either. But it helped them to sound more realistic in the free flight planes they used then. The free flight planes tended to fly off in a more leisurely sedate manner when launched by their owners. In some countries like the UK, just after WWII they had restrictions in place as well, for example you were limited to a max of 45 seconds of engine run time. Which is one reason why the engines all have cute little fuel tanks on them. The fuel capacity was designed with that in mind. RC was only a dream with modelers just after WWII.

I really like the cool spun aluminum fuel tanks on these little engines. Not plastic. Plus the assembly joints on the fuel tanks is almost invisible too.

Now some people in another thread were commenting that the 1.8cc Atom replica seemed to be outperforming the larger 2.5cc Letmo replica as well.

I bought my MPJet .040 and MPJet 1.8 from ICARE in Canada http://www.icare-rc.com/diesel.htm#MP_Jet
But I think Carlson has them too. But you need to call him as his website is out of date: http://carlsonengineimports.net/
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