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Old Mar 12, 2011, 11:42 AM
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Logo's on diesels, which country?


Gluehand, I guess I was way off on my guess for post 109/1631. Certainly the wrong country!

JMP, you have a great eye for catching the detail. “The Kumar engine's "Strawberry" logo is different from the "Engel" logo, have a look”.

The Exander Engel is a really great looking logo in the rh picture, but I found it hard to see in the lh picture of the logo.
Thanks for the information.
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Old Mar 12, 2011, 12:40 PM
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The Kumar engine's "Strawberry" logo is different from the "Engel" logo. have a look
Thanks JMP for dispersing the diesel mists....the logos are obviously different...

And...the company (Engel Modellbau) still exists...!!....I had no idea....
http://www.engel-modellbau.eu/catalo...otd1j2e2t8jikg



Now I got a little distracted of other fumes...rushing....see you around
Old Mar 12, 2011, 01:31 PM
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Alexander Engel KG


Gluehand, fuel for you first. A complicated mixture.

Thanks for the link to the Exander Engel “logo”, which is nice looking and has lots of “eye appeal”.

Alexander Engel KG has been run as a family business on a larger scale for more than a half of a century, with traditions and business relations that half lasted for more than thirty years. In 2006 Engel released a highly innovative product VII/C, a full scale, static diving model submarine which beats everything on this ever expanding section of the model hobby market.

The closest I could fine to a model diesel engine is the following:

This sound generator produces an electronic emulation of the sound of a multi-cylinder diesel engine. The sound effect is controlled by the drive motor’s speed, so that the apparent engine speed varies with the vehicle’s running speed. Four adjustors provide individual adjustment of the sound volume and maximum "revs". Just what we need to "run" our diesels indoors and not create an exhaust.
Old Mar 12, 2011, 03:55 PM
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Arrived...!


I just asked my "better half" if she checked the mailbox yesterday afternoon.....no, she'd forgot about it......
So, rushed out (half an hour ago), and...among the 'lesser' mail was a little cardboard box that's beeing sitting there since YESTERDAY.....obviously the Schlosser !

What a little jewel....so well made....and I particularily like that the NVA is proportional to the engine size (such details make a lot)....not always seen on small engines, where manufacturers sometimes use the same NVA to a number of engine models, making it look giant on the smaller ones...

Now I have to find a couple of suitable props...a run-in report will eventually be posted here...

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Old Mar 12, 2011, 04:44 PM
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Gluehand, don't get too carried away at "fuel time" and use that spoon.
You just might loose the treasure.
What size prop are you going to use, a giant 5" (12.5cm) or maybe a little less.
The Cox 0.010 has just a "tooth pick". The 0.020 will swing a 5".
John
Old Mar 12, 2011, 05:32 PM
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Gluehand, don't get too carried away at "fuel time" and use that spoon. You just might loose the treasure.
My spontaneous reaction was, "ha...it's just a matter of waiting".....then "Mrs Gluehand" wiseley reminded me of the acid bath the engine will pass in the process....well, I did write "better half" above, didn't I..?

This is obviously an..er...appendix to the main subject, isn't it...?


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Fuel line:
This tiny engine requires a likewise tiny fuel line. Many years ago, I spent some time on hospital, and the nice nurses let me "take care" of some surplus...among this a lot of plastic tubing (non-silicone), perfectly suitable for diesels. I have successfully made it narrower by holding a piece of tube between my hands, stretching/rotating it over an electric stove. As it softens, the tube will stretch out, and in the process it gets narrower...in fact as narrow as I want. Then, still stretched out, rapid cooling in water, and the result is a very useful, thin fuel line.

Propellers:
Benno Schlosser's manual recommends 5x4, 6x4, 6x3 props...I guess a 6x3 would be fine for run-in, if not pushing the engine too hard...

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Old Mar 12, 2011, 06:29 PM
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Thanks JMP for dispersing the diesel mists....the logos are obviously different...

And...the company (Engel Modellbau) still exists...!!....I had no idea....
http://www.engel-modellbau.eu/catalo...otd1j2e2t8jikg



Now I got a little distracted of other fumes...rushing....see you around
Them there taters look goooooood!!
Nice little diesel Gluehand

Bill ps don't really care for that feline condiment on the side. LOL
Old Mar 12, 2011, 11:41 PM
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Propellers:
Benno Schlosser's manual recommends 5x4, 6x4, 6x3 props...I guess a 6x3 would be fine for run-in, if not pushing the engine too hard..
Maybe one of the beautiful 6x3 or 6x4 props from Peter Burford ?

http://www.peterburford.com.au/gallery/rc_engine.jpg
Old Mar 12, 2011, 11:44 PM
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The text is entirely in Japanese, but this site of Mr. Furusaki is interesting for the photos of Diesel conversions, especially the ENYA's ! In the L.H. column, click onto the engines written in English. BOB
http://mokoken.driven.jp/index.html
Old Mar 13, 2011, 08:10 AM
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MVVS 2cc diesel one off


Thanks Twin-Stack. There's a lot of interesting information on the site.
Chad has a lathe, and I have a 2 cc MVVS....maybe?
Old Mar 13, 2011, 12:16 PM
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Schlosser vs PAW


More pictures, with and without the flash.
Is there really a comparison? I guess it's like asking would you rather have the "Mercedes" or the Ford (at least here in Canada).
If they both work, they will get you there.
On the other hand it's always nice to dream or wish for that "toy"
Old Mar 13, 2011, 12:33 PM
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Found this: Viking 2.5
Old Mar 13, 2011, 01:02 PM
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Sablatnic, that'll be a great looking little diesel once it's cleaned up.
Looks about .75cc or so? What size is that prop?
Does it turn over freely, if not get the oil out.
John
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Found this: Viking 2.5
Yep, that's a Danish Viking 2.5 cc from around mid 50's...with its odd front exhaust...

By a coincidence, I just received these photos from a gentleman in Norway, who just recently "found" this one...

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Looks like I'm not doing too well at the guessing game.
I've ordered a reference book to help me out.
At 2.5 cc it's a lot larger than I thought. Why the front exhaust?
I saw a TR 2.5, almost modern, set up with a front exhaust, so there must be some rational to doing it this way.
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