Originally Posted by ChinoDiablo

My only wish is to be able to put in a motor the same size as the Torque that can swing a 13x6 or 14x7 prop on 4s and still get 5 minutes. IMO, This would put the 48's performance right on par with the 52's

I ran my first 3910 in a 48" Extra and it was so much power the plane wasn't as much run to fly. The stupid power was hysterical, but it was a lot like driving a Corvette with bald tires on a wet road. There was so much power it was hard to use all of it, and it was hard to control. The 48s are perfectly balanced with the 2814.

The big advantage of the 52 is you go up four inches in span, but a full 3 inches in propeller. This blows a lot more air over the plane, which not only gives you better post stall authority, but that air is also lift. The plane doesn't actually float any better, but the superior airflow makes the plane feel much lighter.
I suppose the plane does in a way float better, but that has more to do with the prop size than the extra size of the plane.

Greger T, Man runs a 3910 in most of his 48s, but he tames it by running a 13/6 prop. He says it's as much power as you can comfortably control, but he only needs a 60 amp esc. That could be a good option for the 48, A 60 amp Airboss is roughly the same weight as a 45, so the only weight penalty in that package would be the extra half ounce in the motor itself.

Maybe Greger can weigh in on this.

I hope EF never stops production of the 48's.

Well, we're almost ready to introduce a new one, so if you want the 48s to live forever, you'de better buy, or even two. They will stay in production as long as people buy lots of them. No one has given me a price on the V2s, but with all the carbon on that thing I think it simply can't sell for the same price. However, I wouldn't even blink if the V2 is $200. That's a ton better than not being able to get one at all.

I have not seen a V2 yet, but from what pictures we have it looks like the entire radio compartment is mixed composite and carbon........not cheap. I do expect it will have the much stiffer angled motorbox sides with plenty of composite reinforcement in critical areas like the wing tub mount anti-rotation pin mounts and wing retention bolt areas. That and I expect plenty of carbon rods running nose to tail. It's going to be the strongest, lightest, stiffest 48 we have ever seen.

Plus with the new generation of servos and gyros out there they fly so much bigger than they are..

It's a bit unsettling to fly a 60 with the newest gear and then fly a similarly equipped 48 and not feel a lot of difference. This is the exact opposite of what have become accustomed to and at least initially it's nearly impossible to believe. In my experience, a gyro exponentially helps the plane me as you go to a smaller size, and all the 48, 52 and 60" planes are nearly on the same level. In fact, I'm going to phase out all of my older 60s because I don't fly them as much, but if there's a 60 Velox you can bet I'll have one.

Perfect servo centering plays a huge part because small servos used to not be very good at this, while the newest versions are absolute game changers. Since the big plane's size advantage is mostly in stability, a good ESS narrows that gap to nearly imperceptible, so small planes make even more sense than they ever have

We first started experimenting with gyros, and that opened a new world, but the super mega magic wunder servos made about the same amount of difference, which was difficult to process. We went up a full two levels, if not more, with that combination of equipment. I always say the 48 Extra was 10 years ahead of it's time, and it's a full ten years down the road that the equipment finally caught up enough to get the most out of that plane.

With this in mind, it's the perfect time for the V2. All the performance stuff has already been nailed down, and what the Extra really needed was a pretty new wrapper, which it now has.

Was the V2 treatment really necessary? Maybe not, because the V1 still flies as well as anything I've ever owned, but the V2 is going to be even better, and it's going to be way cooler.

As of this moment, there are still some red 48" Extra V1s in stock. For those of you who like the older scheme better than the upcoming V2, this could possibly be your last chance. I don't know whether if the V1s will be restocked of not, so if you want a 48, now is the time.

I've been having a blast with mine, but I'm sure ready for the V2s. I'll hang this V1 of in a place of honor, to mark the decade if excellent she has brought us.

There must be a container loaded with V2s bobbing around out in the middle of the Pacific.

It's certainly not going to be soon enough. Delivery dates are notoriously inaccurate and I've never seen anything come in early. Essentially, it's "patience, grasshopper."

The plane is going to be fantastic and the ultimate expression of the 48" series EXP.


I'm still having a blast with my V1. Right now my V1 is probably the most tweaked out badass 48 on the planet, and you can buy every bit of it and build your own, that is, if you can still find a 48" Extra V1. For those who can't, fear not. The Extra V2s will be here shortly, and that's going to kick the game up another notch.

So, who's planning to build a V2 and what are you going to put in it?

Extra EXP__DS85 Durability Testing 002 (5 min 6 sec)

Originally Posted by Doc Austin

So, who's planning to build a V2 and what are you going to put in it?

Long story on how I obtained it but I have a (what I think is) an XPWR prototype motor that is slightly stronger than a 2814 that I have been saving for this ever since I saw the V2 48 prototype at Joe Nall, and of course an Airboss 45 ESC. I plan to order another Aura and a set of John's new Promodeler micro servos as soon as funds allow.
I'm sure I am going to have a plane that is waaay more caple than the pilot flying it.
Also I am excited to see if the V2 is going to be offered in the blue/orange/white scheme as well as the yellow/red/blue or if the Extreme Flight Team surprises us and we have a whole new color scheme to drool over....

Even though I primarily fly the 52" size now I'm stilll planning to get one. I've had four (4) of the V1 since 2011. Not sure what I will use for equipment yet but I wouldn't mind a lightweight 3s setup especially if the V2 is a couple ounces lighter. I've flown all my 48's, and I've had a bunch, on 3s and 4s and enjoyed them tremendously. I'm only thinking 3s for this as I wouldn't mind something a little lighter to fly at the schoolyard down the street. My 52's are powerhouses and I prefer a little more room to fly them.

Chris gave us a little bit of specific info on the V2 status a few days ago in a different thread:

He said: "We were hoping they would be ready to ship before CNY holiday but it’s not going to happen. Once the factory re-opens they will finish covering them and send them our way."

I don't have any idea how long it will take to finish covering the planes, but lets say 10 days. The holiday doesn't end until the end of the month. Transit across the Pacific takes around 20 days. Trucking to/from ports plus loading/unloading, customs, etc. has to be at least another 10 days. So my best guess is around mid-March before EF will have their hands on them.

The big variable in this is the time to finish covering the planes. We don't know how many planes nor do we know how many people do the covering.

Originally Posted by Burnooly

Chris gave us a little bit of specific info on the V2 status a few days ago in a different thread:

He said: "We were hoping they would be ready to ship before CNY holiday but it’s not going to happen. Once the factory re-opens they will finish covering them and send them our way."

I don't have any idea how long it will take to finish covering the planes, but lets say 10 days. The holiday doesn't end until the end of the month. Transit across the Pacific takes around 20 days. Trucking to/from ports plus loading/unloading, customs, etc. has to be at least another 10 days. So my best guess is around mid-March before EF will have their hands on them.

The big variable in this is the time to finish covering the planes. We don't know how many planes nor do we know how many people do the covering.

Since I live fairly close I am thinking about going over and volunteering to help unload the truck and see if I can be the first one to walk out of there with one....lol

Originally Posted by tmc99

Since I live fairly close I am thinking about going over and volunteering to help unload the truck and see if I can be the first one to walk out of there with one....lol

That's a solid plan.

Yeah, this plane is going to go quick and we may never see any more. I look at it as the Extra EXP getting one last glorious moment in the sun to celebrate how much she has meant to all of us.

My V1 just rolls on. This has the first set of production DS105 servos and an Aura, so it's as tweaked out as it gets. She's wearing in a little and it getting really good.

When you get one dialed and broken in just right they plane will come to you. Generally it doesn't feel as refined until about 25 flights and then they really come alive. Some of this is things like hinges getting broken in, servos breaking in and getting the CG perfect. Every one of them has been like that for me. It's almost like you forge a bond with it.

I wasn't completely in the groove with this plane and I just had to put some time on it. Now I'm almost as connected to it as the blue on I flew all summer, but that's a pretty high bar. I can tell it's going to be a good plane.

Got lots of testing footage with the blue already out, but I'm going to recycle a few to keep the mania going until the V2s get here. This plane was nothing but magic. .

Testing ProModeler DS85 Prototype Servos 002 (4 min 21 sec)

Hey Doc,
How would you say a 48" extra with aura was compared to a 60" extra without an ess?

Originally Posted by ecfarr

Hey Doc,
How would you say a 48" extra with aura was compared to a 60" extra without an ess?

The 48 would be nearly as stable and a lot more agile. The bigger plane is always going to fly better, but the ESS really closes the gap.

Originally Posted by Sinkhappens86

Boom, they're here!

https://extremeflightrc.com/48-Extra...ue_p_6032.html

I actually discovered they were in stock by going to the website to see if the 48" in blue were still in stock. The blue and the red have been removed from the website so I guess they are all sold out.

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