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Wayne,
Nice clean work. Really like the compact size of this supply. Curiously, I note that your PS has three power forms yet you have soldered your +12V and RTN terminals to all available blade terminations on the rear of the supply. Makes one wonder - where do the -12V and +5VSB terminate? Presumably the small 'jumper' pins? The higher current +5VSB would likely have to use a few as a single pin might get a bit toasty at 7A. Mark edit: Nevermind. Found answer (thanks Google). Attached from a Russian website. |
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(Just a guess from a few photos, these little buggers are 4" x 3" x 10" or so) Added spec sheet for what appears to be a similar supply, just a slightly different number. P/N 321632-501 - Noted in Wayne's post above P/N 321632-001 - Similar to wayne's, seems to be available for less $$ in the US, I just bought two for $24 shipped off Fleabay... |
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I have been using a ground lift 'cheater' plug like this for almost 2 years... https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...26&postcount=6 Many others are employing similar measures to obtain dirt cheap 24V DC (or 15V, 17V, etc.). Extensive thread discussing safety and such here. Mark |
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I have bought two more to make a 24V supply up and you do need to isolate case of the upper one (in voltage terms) as the case is connected to the 0V rail. This is unusual with power supplies, as outputs are usually floating from earth. I assume it is a convention in Servers. The problem is that the case is also connected to mains earth, so you cannot just connect the 0v of the second unit to the +12V of the first unit as this will put a short across the 12V supply on the first unit via the mains earth. It may well be that the 0V is only connected to the case at a single point and I will investigate this when my second units arrive. In that case it should be possible to lift that connection and retain mains earth on both units which overcomes the safety aspect. It is also wise to connect a reverse power diode across the output of each unit to avoid either output being driven negative by the load current should the other unit shut down. Wayne |
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I'm looking to put together a nice power supply. In looking at the OP, I'm wondering if there's a difference between PN 348114R-B21 and PN 348114-B21 (no "R"). I've found some of the "no R" units on eBay, and I'm wondering if those are the units to get.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=263602_263622 |
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Hard to say from the photo - they certainly look the same. Someone may know what the R signifies but if not why don't you do what we all did?
Risk $40 and see how you go. My guess is you will be in luck. John Quote:
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I considered this long ago when I first started running some in series but decided as they were extrely well self protected and also very inexpensive it was not really worth the effort/cost . If one trips for whatever reason the fact that the other one is reverse feeding it does not seem to mater. Now, I have not let mine run for hours like this but I do not charge unattended either and if one shuts down I stop the charge(s) and reboot the power supplies. A couple of years or so ago when many were starting to use MasTechs to charge A123 packs I warned often to use some form of reverse current flow protection. Some did and some did not ,some who did not later wished they had. Severrl around here (RC Groups) used a Full Wave Bridge Rectifier from Radio Shack which are rated 25amps / 50 volts One of many such post https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...2&postcount=81 Charles |
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If you do get your second 2 paired up in series, be sure to post your findings to this thread - https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...1#post13992510 Also, as a side note, many of us also wired up a simple neon light at mains voltage (our case 110v) and wired the positive to one case and the negative to the other. In the event the the ungrounded case goes "live" the light will illuminate giving a visual warning... Quote:
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"Great, thanks. So, just to it's clear from a rank amateur perspective, I can isolate the cases, float one ground, be sure not to touch the cases when plugged in and all should go well, correct? I recently connected 2 DL580's in the same manor and they are working fantastic" If you can float one ground from the 0V DC ouput then the answer is "Yes" Do not float the case from the mains Earth as you have then lost the safety protection of the mains earth system, so that a fault on the mains side of that psu could make the case live. Thus you must retain mains earth connections, but can, if practical, float the DC outputs. I will try to do this on one of the units in transit to me and post results. Charles, On linear PSUs any reverse voltage at the output would invariably lock out that output by operating the re-entrant overload circuit. This is unlikely to happen on a switchmode psu as the overload sytem is different, but the diodes are necessary to protect the ouput electrolytic capacitors which otherwise would be damaged by the reverse voltage. They may be built into the unit already, but most likely are not as the units would not be subject to this condition in their intended usage. Wayne |
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All subject to "At your own risk" of course. Will post again when I have had time to examine the units in transit. Wayne |
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First, 348114-B21 brings up supplies that look nothing like the supplies you pictured in all your posts... I believe Remarketers or Refurbishers add the "R" making the revised number 348114R-B21 Example: http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/vn/en...72-465628.html Second, Part Number "3378676-501" doesn't exist unless you drop 6, then it brings up a supply that looks like what you've referenced. Third, the description for 337867-501 is "FOR PROLIANT DL585 G2 DL580 G3 ML5 G4" Example: http://www.serversupply.com/MFGR/HP%...337867-501.htm Fourth, the supply you referenced in the first post of your 12v 100 amp thread is the "HP PROLIANT DL580/ML570G3 RPS REDUNDANT POWER SUPPLY" which matches part number 337867-001, not 337867-501 I appreciate all your time and hard work, but I think some of these details make it difficult for us to separate fact from fiction. With that said, I'm not completely sure some of the vendors even know what they have since HP has all kinds of numbers and server models flying around. In summary, after looking closer, looks like the third and fourth items above both have the DL580G3 server in their title which likely means their essentially the same - at least for our purposes. Unless I'm delirious or way off base, I would suggest that you drop the "348114R-B21" references in favor of the 2 numbers that seem to matter most which are: 337867-501 337867-001 Hopefully, this all makes sense and is correct. I'm just trying to insure that those who want to duplicate your efforts don't run into any roadblocks (or speed bumps) along the way. Thanks again for all your hard work. |
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Yep, that number now brings up a different looking supply. Sigh.
There's a big range of different "580" servers which can be very confusing. If it says 1300Watts it is likely to be the one though. Best I can do is get a picture of the label on the original supply that started this thread and put it in the first post. The other two I have are in a 24V combo and you can't see the labels any more. It's morning here and it will have to wait till I get home later tonight. John |
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Think I found a picture of the label from one of your other threads.
This is for the 12v 1300 watt version: https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/atta...mentid=2974138 |
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