I had the Timber out Saturday. I brought out the Apprentice 15e too to test the fog. Sure enough I kept losing the Apprentice in the fog, but since I had it on intermediate mode I just kept turning left until it came back into view. Finally it cleared up enough for me to take some video. I love a good 3D plane, but the Timber was relaxing to fly. Still working on the flap settings. Even slow she wanted to balloon.