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# Havoc high speed stalls (and any other plane too)

Posted by kenelder | Sep 23, 2019 @ 03:37 PM | 787 Views
I've been reading the Eflite Havoc thread for a while and see that a lot of them are stalling at high speed. Yet when you watch the factory videos, those pilots instantly change direction without stalling. So there has to be a way to set up a Havoc to be able to do those high speed turns without stalling. And......there is!!!

A little non tech aerodynamics: When an airplane is in balanced level flight, the wing is producing lift and the airfoil is at a positive angle of attack. Also, the horizontal tail is forcing the wing to fly at that angle in order to stay level by pushing down on the fuselage. The lift needed to fly level is simply the weight of the airplane PLUS the downforce of the horizontal tail.

Here's an example: lets say your plane weighs 4 pounds and the horizontal tail has to push down 1 pound to maintain level flight. The wing has to lift 5 pounds total. In this example that extra pound of down force is 20% of the total lift!!! Now real world the down force is not that bad, but it can be significant. That's a lot of extra weight for the wing to carry, yet there is something that you can do about that. The down force is needed to counteract the CG which is usually ahead of what is called the neutral point. The further ahead, the more down force is necessary. Move the CG back and you reduce the down force. Even if you only reduce a few ounces of down force, you are doing the same thing as reducing your wing loading.

# EFxtra blue fast!

Posted by kenelder | Apr 28, 2019 @ 07:45 PM | 1,001 Views
Here's some pics of my Efxtra that I replaced the speed control with a YEP 80 amp esc. I've been flying it on 4s 2200 batteries but using an 8x6 APC prop so wanted a little more speed control than what comes with it. That's the same as the factory 3s prop, but on 4s. Decent radar shows it going 128 mph but who knows how accurate that is- my buddy has an Efxtra all stock on 4s and I can out run him. The tread on rcg has some posts about using a 6s pack with a small prop to keep the current down, but my experience has been that when the prop is too small and the rpm too high, hand launching becomes an issue. So I'm sticking with 4s!

Note- I land on paved runways at fairly low speed so I've never broken a prop. I've seen in the threads that folks are breaking a lot of props- not sure why, maybe landing on grass. If I had to guess, I'd say folks are just landing it too fast- it does slow down quite well.

Anyway- it's a nice flying speedster and launches very easy with that 8x6 prop on it.

# pdf for configuring hammer22's spektrum module

Posted by kenelder | Jun 08, 2016 @ 04:12 PM | 6,874 Views
For anyone interested the attached file is the instructions on how to switch hammer22's spektrum module to the various configurations.

Enjoy!

# takeoff dolly

Posted by kenelder | Nov 28, 2014 @ 10:27 PM | 8,954 Views
Here is information and pictures of the takeoff dolly I use for the F104. This was all designed by the TLAR method (that looks about right) but some principles were considered.

1. Tricycle gear with wheels located close to the F104 scale positions.
2. Low cg: the plane needed to sit as low as possible. I've seen far too many dolly's trip over and spill the plane if they are too tall.
3. At least a 5 deg positive angle of attack. Most airfoils stall around 10 deg and not wanting to take off too slow, I figured 5 deg was about right.
4. Steerable nose wheel: I'm lazy and wanted to taxi out to the runway for takeoff.
5. Had to be easy and cheap to make- thus use of pvc pipe and fittings.
6. End of wing support had to be located right where the scale main wheels were- too long a support prevents the airplane from rotating during takeoff. I'm not so sure this was very important, but I was considering it.

The pics have captions explaining everything. It has worked amazingly well, great to see the plane taxi to the end of the runway turn around and then make a takeoff. After liftoff I give it just a little rudder so that by the time it stops it is off the runway so I can land without worrying about hitting it.

I hope this design helps all those that want to make a takeoff dolly that works!...Continue Reading

# F104

Posted by kenelder | Nov 20, 2014 @ 05:05 PM | 8,164 Views
Here are some pictures of my scratch built F104. It is built from plans of a ducted fan version originally designed in Europe somewhere. The plans were reduced 3/4 size to fit a 90mm fan. I have modified the original design; the airfoils have been changed to Selig model airfoils. Original plan airfoils were 10% thick symmetrical section and after watching a friends' model with that airfoil I decided something with more lift would work a lot better. Used Profili, the airfoil software, to compare the original symmetrical section to various other sections and ended up with the Selig foils. Lift coefficient was 2.5 times the original section at the root, 3 times the original at the root.

There were other changes such as moving the elevator servo to the tail, but those were all minor. Other than the airfoils my model is exactly like the plans at 3/4 size. Fuselage is 48" long.

I have not weighed it recently but it carries a 6 cell 2700 battery, 100 amp ICE speed control, and a Wemotec midifan powered by a Mega motor.

I also used my own design takeoff dolly. I did not want to risk a bungee launch withe the new airfoils and all the work put into it. Much to my surprise, the dolly worked perfect from the very start. As I like to taxi onto the runway, the dolly includes its own receiver and nosewheel steering servo.

The F104 lands on its belly on a long strip of fan belt rubber glued to its bottom. This works great as a brake- although it lands relatively fast, it stops in about 10 feet. This lets me feather it down to the runway without worrying about running off the end.

The color scheme is from Darryl Greenamayer's low altitude speed record holding F104 back in the '60s or '70s.