Hello everyone,

today was the first day of the Intl. Toy Fair in Germany. I made a few photos for my German forum concerning the bike stuff.
Here you can see them (the language is German though, but maybe Google can translate):
http://www.norisbike.de/forum/phpBB2...pic.php?t=1789

Bye
Gregor

Thanks Gregor.

Here is the English translation of Gregor's post.

http://66.163.168.225/babelfish/tran...php%3Ft%3D1789

Bruce

Thanks for the coverage, Gregor!!!

That AR race bike looks sweeet!.

Great idea with the "entry level" ARX too.

Is it just me or is all NF stuff ugly as sin ?. Function over form has its place but theres a limit somewhere, surely.

NF bikes look totally cool. I think their choice of hardware colour is kinda strange but the designs look sharp. I hope their hardware on the production models is something more apealing in colour. I wonder when they go on sale.

Originally Posted by TroyM

That AR race bike looks sweeet!.

Great idea with the "entry level" ARX too.

Is it just me or is all NF stuff ugly as sin ?. Function over form has its place but theres a limit somewhere, surely.

Your taste is up your bum Troy, I reckon the orange colour looks sweet..

I saw NF's new nitro bike in Spain and it runs/handles realy well, but their new electric bike looks familiar.. Loads of adjustments available on their chass's,.. I know what you mean thought..

It's great to see all these new bikes coming out, and even some new companies.. Maybe the rest of the world will find out about bikes one day..

Shaun

Hi all,
here some pictures of the new AR S5 i took this morning.
ciao
Hugo

Hi

The AR looks exactly as your prototype bike, Hugo. Are you working with them on this project?

For the NF, a lot of things done since the 506E. I hope the final version of it will have a longer travelling rear damper.

Where is the West bike from? It looks nice also.

bye
Manu

The West bike is from WESTON UK, they had a four stroke bike on show the past couple of years (plus rally crossers with tilted engines before anyone else!)

The big difference on this bike is a seperate layshaft and swing arm pivot, but sharing a concentric pivot, clever stuff.

Will have more details when I see one in action soon, and get to see it in person when Allan gets back from Nuremberg.
Graham Clarke has been testing it and doing rather well, we'll see how good it really is when the Nationals start in April!

Originally Posted by Manuspain

The AR looks exactly as your prototype bike, Dan.
For the NF, a lot of things done since the 506E. I hope the final version of it will have a longer travelling rear damper.
Manu

The AR bike has a proper wheel to shock ratio by putting it long and low on the swing arm, the NF has a long vertical arm poking straight up, both increase the rate of piston travel so thinner oils and softer springs can be used and a plush ride is the result with less shock failures and cavitation (thick oils literally suck air past the seals if the piston moves too fast)

I think that west has done what i was trying to do to improve my homemade bike about the shaft. Quite different of my design but with the same result. The better solution for me after trying two axles transmission in mine during last year.

For the NF damper, this rear configuration is the same as Mario Lopez's bike (superbike 08 world champion and now NF driver), but i ve been on the track in many of his tests since the past november, and i personnally think this damper needs less bottle and more shaft to work fine in horizontal configuration. In this condition, it s very hard to set correctly, and it s possible to get more speed getting out of the corners with more traction.

Bye
Manu

Originally Posted by Manuspain

Hi

The AR looks exactly as your prototype bike, Dan. Are you working with them on this project?

Yes!

Best Regards
Hugo

Originally Posted by scaulfi

Your taste is up your bum Troy, I reckon the orange colour looks sweet..

Up my bum?. I thought something tasted funny...

Its not the colour I was referring to, I actually like the orange. Its the agricultural design of the components, very blocky and old school - function over form. Coming from the people who bought us Bimota, Ducati and MV augusta I've become accustomed to more stylish design and implementation.

I'm fully prepared to accept its just my own personal taste though.

Originally Posted by TroyM

Its the agricultural design of the components, very blocky and old school - function over form. Coming from the people who bought us Bimota, Ducati and MV augusta I've become accustomed to more stylish design and implementation.

I totaly agree with you there with their parts styling Yeah, you would think so with all the local influence they have..

Originally Posted by slawsonb

Thanks Gregor.

Here is the English translation of Gregor's post.

http://66.163.168.225/babelfish/tran...php%3Ft%3D1789

Bruce

Man, the translation is a tough read!