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Old Feb 01, 2009, 08:07 AM
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Trying to think outside the box here, but a few suggestions:

1. Make the front canards fixed (i.e. no moving surfaces) and have all control in the rear "elevons" (for lack of a better word) -- Not sure if this is feasible though.

2. Have magnetic/plastic bolt attachment for the canards with a super long and easily accessible/breakable servo lead, so that a serious landing will only knock the wing off.

3. Make the canard from EPP with Burly/NS to prevent damage, and the rear wing from foam/bagged/sheeted (if you feel like it).

Looking forward to seeing the outcome.

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Interesting ideals. Will make some use of them down the road. Thanks.
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Old Feb 01, 2009, 08:20 AM
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Hey Geode:
Not sure this is really helpful, but I like to fly power models as sailplanes on CRRCsim, and there happens to be a Rutan Quickie.

It does loop well, does tight turns, but the rolls are a bit barrely. Try using a strong launch on CRRC (1.5-2.5) plus 25-30 mph wind
That's some good tools I can make use now. And thanks for the pics.

My question is how to configure the control surface of a Quickie? The original Quickie (see 1st post) seems to have full span control on front wing and half span control (near center) on the main wing. FW is used for pitch/flap (?) and MW for aileron. Just like a conventional canard.

The aileron seems small and near the center of the roll axis. Quite a different configuration

Not sure if I should configure like the "elevon" (as Steve recommends) or the conventional (with a big lifting elevator/MW)?

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Old Feb 01, 2009, 11:12 AM
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Quickie

I was thinking about the same project. I'm planning a lost foam fuse then cut blue foam wings and cover with 1/64 play. I drafted up the fuselage last spring, now I can't find the plans Mine was going to be 60" plus wing span.

Here is a few threads about the quickie that I had bookmarked. the second thread show picture of full size with CG marked on it.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115579
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attac...hmentid=209341
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219569
Good luck with project.
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Old Feb 01, 2009, 12:30 PM
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slopeboulder, thanks for the links. Will take a harder look.

Lost fuselage plan? I can scale it to any sizes you like. Let's me know if you're interested.

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Old Feb 01, 2009, 01:43 PM
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I use Rhino. Recently, I found "Blender" (http://www.blender.org/). Seems to be a power tool with great features and community support.
Thank you. I didn't know Blender. I recently came across Modo, but haven't tried it yet.

http://www.luxology.com/

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Old Feb 01, 2009, 10:27 PM
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In 90'or 91' I was out at the airport at Mojave and peered inside one of Rutan's hangar's and think I saw both the ARES and the Pond racer and they were awesome. You can see the ARES fly in the movie Iron Eagle III and I got a hoot out of the German pilot saying "It's the Me-" something or other "it survived the war." Supposedly was 75% more mannuverable than an A-10, and it was also the first totally composite A/C to fire a Gatling gun, I wonder if that guy In Fla. still has the mold's?
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Old Feb 01, 2009, 10:45 PM
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K&A makes an EDF ARES kit - I was eyeing it a while back but decided to try something else. Ken Williams' glasswork is fantastic, I'm sure it could be a nice PSS model if it can be built light.
edit: I think it was TFLG who told me once that someone built an ARES for one of the PSS festivals too.

Somewhere in my shop I have two lost foam fuses for a Boomerang, but they came out so heavy it would not have been practical to finish the build. Someday I'll redo them with a little more thought given to weight reduction.

The Quickie/Q2 seems like it's well-suited to the slope if you can make it withstand the landings.

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You can see the ARES fly in the movie Iron Eagle III...
No I can't, the forks in my eyes would get in the way.

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Old Feb 02, 2009, 01:35 AM
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Thanks to Alex recommendation, I also test fly the Quickie on FMS. The model is about ~1.6 m (60in) span and weight 1.2Kg (42 oz). A pretty challenge aircraft to fly as compared to other virtue aircrafts.

I'm playing with the .PAR file, hopefully can tame it a little bit before I kick-off the actual design.

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Old Feb 02, 2009, 01:52 AM
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Do you have a link for the FMS download?
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Old Feb 02, 2009, 09:58 AM
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Try here - http://www.flying-model-simulator.com/

I fly the Quickie in "Switzerland_Slope" with lots of bubbles ....
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Old Feb 02, 2009, 12:09 PM
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I have FMS. I was wondering if there is a download for the Quickie.

I see you're tweaking the (.PAR) so I'm guessing you made it yourself.
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Old Feb 02, 2009, 10:30 PM
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Have you download the latest FMS 'BETA" version from the above link. Quickie is one of the model from that package.

In .PAR file, I could modify the flight characteristics. This will help me set the target weight, wing loading etc., ....
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Old Feb 02, 2009, 10:44 PM
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A few Quickies on Youtube ....

Quickie ..... always a scratch build aircraft.

No matter it's a small RC airplane

RC Airplane - Burt Rutan Quickie (4 min 0 sec)


or a full scale one

A Real Quickie (0 min 38 sec)


Hope you enjoy,
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Have you download the latest FMS 'BETA" version from the above link. Quickie is one of the model from that package.
Got it. Time to play.
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