Scratch builder paint tips / ideas: instructional videos - Page 4

rmgmag · Jan 20, 2009, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adreher

Vanish,

Painting an already glued plane is the same techniques, just a lot more tape to make sure everything is covered up, at least that's haw I have had to do it. It is much easier to paint first, but it doesn't always work that way.

Werlec,
Gravity feed as opposed to bottle is just preference. Like Mark has said, they both have their benefits.
It is kind of hard to say about the airbrush in the link. I would hate to say "looks good" and then you have a bad experience with it. I like that is is dual action, I like that the nose has removable pieces and that the back is removable. It looks like it would do ok, but you never know until you get it.

The infneon is a great plane!

Where would someone find a good cheap compressor to work with an airbrush. I'm a total neophyte with airbrushing, so please excuse me if I ask any dumb questions, but I'm assuming that a compressor is a requirement?

Also, I'm a total Infineon freak. I think I've built 4 of them and I have one all cut out and ready for gluing, but I've been debating what to do about painting it. Painting is definitely not a strong point for me.

So now I'm thinking that learning how to paint with an airbrush might be a good thing.

Bob

J-Bird 662 · Jan 20, 2009, 06:37 PM

The Harbor Freight Airbrush for $15.99 is the unit I used to paint my FireFly’s as seen on the FireFly build thread. It worked good for me using thinned down acrylic paint from Michael’s on around 40 psi.

helifryer · Jan 20, 2009, 07:59 PM

hey adam! thanks so much! i used your template technique to paint my first firefly ever, and it looks amazing! i stole the paint scheme from the firefly thread, but whatever. (i wanna say it was trouble makers design...) so thanks a buch! i havent even maidened this one yet, and im already itching to paint another! (BTW, i used a cheap $15 badger airbrush. works wonders for me! so here it is! i really dont want to crash this one ever! (especcially on the maiden! ) so i double checked the CG. (9.5 from nose right?)
thanks again!
Patrick

i think that mine looks a little chukyer, because i used 6 mm depron, not EPP, and i probly used way too much paint. (my rule of thumb is "when in doubt.....use 3 coats of each color! lol)

adreher · Jan 21, 2009, 09:23 AM

helifryer,

Looks good! Good to hear that the airbrush is working for you, that one is another good alternative for people.

there are a number of cheap compressors out there. Really anything that can give you a constant 40psi should work fine. Leadfeather got one from harbor freight that he likes (i think) but don't know which one it is. It was nice and quite though.

leadfeather · Jan 21, 2009, 10:29 AM

Here is the compressor I bought from harbor Freight.

air brush compressor

It seems to work OK and as Adam said, it is pretty quiet.

larryross · Jan 21, 2009, 11:29 AM

When buying a compressor the most important spec is the CFM you need to make sure it is enough for what ever it is your powering. Most air tools will tell you how much CFM is needed to run that tool or sprayer.

TaSaJaRa · Jan 21, 2009, 03:42 PM

I picked up this compressor at Wal-Mart.

Campbell Hausfeld FP2028 - Electric Oil Free Tank Mounted 1 Gallon Air Compressor

seems to work good. I just need to get a better Airbrush. I did add an inline regulator.

xj35s · Jan 21, 2009, 06:35 PM

Take an old refridgerator compressor and plumb it into an old tank. can be old propane/ cold water/ extinguisher, or anything that will hold pressure. It's as quiet as your fridge and can build up pressure quickly. You need to make sure you get the power cord with the compressor, they have a unique connector/plug on the pump.
Here is an excellent airbrushing site with lots of tutorials. They too built a compressor...

http://airbrush.com/how-to-guide.asp...toDetail&id=37

Here's a link to a site I just found.

http://www.theworkshop.ca/genwork/Co...compressor.htm

one more, good details and smaller package

http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/compressorgi_1.htm

This is better with more detail pictures.
http://www.briansmodelcars.com/tutorials/tutorial/28

adreher · Jan 21, 2009, 07:03 PM

sweet compressor!

Dan, I tried out your airbrush (from harbor freight). It works really well. The dual action is a must. For 15 bucks it really works nicely. I don't think you will see much of a difference between this airbrush and my airbrush when doing things like painting foam. You will when doing more detailed and delicate things, or more professional projects, but if all you will be doing is painting planes there really is no reason not to get one like this. Just make sure you keep it clean!

Trouble Maker · Jan 22, 2009, 01:06 AM

Here are a couple of pictures of my latest FireFly paint job. I wanted to try a couple of new techniques on this one. The waving checkers and the lettering. Making the mask for the waving checkers was a little time consuming but not to bad. The lettering was pretty simple and adds a new twist for my FireFlys.

TM

leadfeather · Jan 22, 2009, 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trouble Maker

Here are a couple of pictures of my latest FireFly paint job. I wanted to try a couple of new techniques on this one. The waving checkers and the lettering. Making the mask for the waving checkers was a little time consuming but not to bad. The lettering was pretty simple and adds a new twist for my FireFlys.

TM

TM,

That looks absolutely great!

Is the waving checkers mask reusable? Do you have a picture of this mask?

Trouble Maker · Jan 22, 2009, 09:27 AM

Leadfeather,

Here are some images of the masks you requested that I post. I would say you could get by with reusing the masks a couple of times. The problem is on the waving checkers you have to keep the corners attached. I found out that using the 3M spray technique that adreher shared works awesome for keeping the edge of the mask down, but when you have a mask such as the waving checkers you have to use great care in removing the mask so you don’t rip the corners apart if you plan to reuse it.

On a side note I can’t think Adam enough for sharing his tips with the RC community. I can guarantee without his help I would not have been capable of producing anything close to what I am painting now.

TM

adreher · Jan 22, 2009, 10:50 AM

Mark,

Very, very nice job. Checkers look great and I really like the lettering, and the effect in the lettering gives it a great look. What font? I think I might use that lettering on my big firefly.

Like you said, doing the checkers that way does take more time. But like anything, the more time you spend on it, the better it will look.

Great job my young padawan. And keep posting those sweet planes!

davei · Jan 22, 2009, 11:02 AM

Adam; Thanks for sharing your expertise. Your artistic skills are matched, or exceeded by your piloting ability. Thanks to all the Wichita bunch for sharing plans and ideas.
Dave Ingalls

helifryer · Jan 22, 2009, 04:29 PM

another vote for sticky !

Jan 20, 2009, 06:37 PM	#47
J-Bird 662 Flyin Low Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Simi Valley, Calif Posts: 193	The Harbor Freight Airbrush for $15.99 is the unit I used to paint my FireFly’s as seen on the FireFly build thread. It worked good for me using thinned down acrylic paint from Michael’s on around 40 psi. Attached Thumbnails 93.9 KB · Views: 452

Jan 20, 2009, 07:59 PM	#48
helifryer all out of CA..... Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NC Posts: 585	hey adam! thanks so much! i used your template technique to paint my first firefly ever, and it looks amazing! i stole the paint scheme from the firefly thread, but whatever. (i wanna say it was trouble makers design...) so thanks a buch! i havent even maidened this one yet, and im already itching to paint another! (BTW, i used a cheap $15 badger airbrush. works wonders for me! so here it is! i really dont want to crash this one ever! (especcially on the maiden! ) so i double checked the CG. (9.5 from nose right?) thanks again! Patrick i think that mine looks a little chukyer, because i used 6 mm depron, not EPP, and i probly used way too much paint. (my rule of thumb is "when in doubt.....use 3 coats of each color! lol) Attached Thumbnails i like how the blue streaks on the green kinda look two tone. those turned out better than expected! 58.7 KB · Views: 331 belly 63.0 KB · Views: 284

Jan 21, 2009, 06:35 PM	#53
xj35s Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Fulton, NY Posts: 71	homw made.. Take an old refridgerator compressor and plumb it into an old tank. can be old propane/ cold water/ extinguisher, or anything that will hold pressure. It's as quiet as your fridge and can build up pressure quickly. You need to make sure you get the power cord with the compressor, they have a unique connector/plug on the pump. Here is an excellent airbrushing site with lots of tutorials. They too built a compressor... http://airbrush.com/how-to-guide.asp...toDetail&id=37 Here's a link to a site I just found. http://www.theworkshop.ca/genwork/Co...compressor.htm one more, good details and smaller package http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/compressorgi_1.htm This is better with more detail pictures. http://www.briansmodelcars.com/tutorials/tutorial/28 Last edited by xj35s; Jan 24, 2009 at 06:04 PM. Reason: added link

Jan 22, 2009, 01:06 AM	#55
Trouble Maker Zippy, Strong Like Bull! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Air Capital of the World Posts: 763	Here are a couple of pictures of my latest FireFly paint job. I wanted to try a couple of new techniques on this one. The waving checkers and the lettering. Making the mask for the waving checkers was a little time consuming but not to bad. The lettering was pretty simple and adds a new twist for my FireFlys. TM Attached Thumbnails FireFly paint with waving checkers. 54.4 KB · Views: 355 FireFly lettering. 54.4 KB · Views: 287

Jan 22, 2009, 09:27 AM	#57
Trouble Maker Zippy, Strong Like Bull! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Air Capital of the World Posts: 763	Leadfeather, Here are some images of the masks you requested that I post. I would say you could get by with reusing the masks a couple of times. The problem is on the waving checkers you have to keep the corners attached. I found out that using the 3M spray technique that adreher shared works awesome for keeping the edge of the mask down, but when you have a mask such as the waving checkers you have to use great care in removing the mask so you don’t rip the corners apart if you plan to reuse it. On a side note I can’t think Adam enough for sharing his tips with the RC community. I can guarantee without his help I would not have been capable of producing anything close to what I am painting now. TM Attached Thumbnails Paint Mask positioned on foam. 38.8 KB · Views: 342 Waving checker detail positioned on foam. 46.6 KB · Views: 269 FireFly logo detail positioned on foam. 33.7 KB · Views: 267 FireFly Logo on table showing cutout detail. 25.0 KB · Views: 235 Waving checker placed on table showing cutout detail. 34.5 KB · Views: 402 FireFly logo and waving checkers placed on table to show detail of cutout. 30.7 KB · Views: 305

Jan 21, 2009, 09:23 AM	#49
adreher Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 257	helifryer, Looks good! Good to hear that the airbrush is working for you, that one is another good alternative for people. there are a number of cheap compressors out there. Really anything that can give you a constant 40psi should work fine. Leadfeather got one from harbor freight that he likes (i think) but don't know which one it is. It was nice and quite though.

Jan 21, 2009, 10:29 AM	#50
leadfeather There's no place like foam... Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4,323	Here is the compressor I bought from harbor Freight. air brush compressor It seems to work OK and as Adam said, it is pretty quiet.

Jan 21, 2009, 11:29 AM	#51
larryross Registered FFF Addict Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Grand Junction, Colorado Posts: 1,544	When buying a compressor the most important spec is the CFM you need to make sure it is enough for what ever it is your powering. Most air tools will tell you how much CFM is needed to run that tool or sprayer.

Jan 21, 2009, 03:42 PM	#52
TaSaJaRa Can't be Wrong if you Fly Rite Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Quinton, Alabama Posts: 1,635	I picked up this compressor at Wal-Mart. Campbell Hausfeld FP2028 - Electric Oil Free Tank Mounted 1 Gallon Air Compressor seems to work good. I just need to get a better Airbrush. I did add an inline regulator.

Jan 21, 2009, 07:03 PM	#54
adreher Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 257	sweet compressor! Dan, I tried out your airbrush (from harbor freight). It works really well. The dual action is a must. For 15 bucks it really works nicely. I don't think you will see much of a difference between this airbrush and my airbrush when doing things like painting foam. You will when doing more detailed and delicate things, or more professional projects, but if all you will be doing is painting planes there really is no reason not to get one like this. Just make sure you keep it clean!

Jan 22, 2009, 10:50 AM	#58
adreher Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 257	Mark, Very, very nice job. Checkers look great and I really like the lettering, and the effect in the lettering gives it a great look. What font? I think I might use that lettering on my big firefly. Like you said, doing the checkers that way does take more time. But like anything, the more time you spend on it, the better it will look. Great job my young padawan. And keep posting those sweet planes!

Jan 22, 2009, 11:02 AM	#59
davei Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 13	painting Adam; Thanks for sharing your expertise. Your artistic skills are matched, or exceeded by your piloting ability. Thanks to all the Wichita bunch for sharing plans and ideas. Dave Ingalls

Jan 22, 2009, 04:29 PM	#60
helifryer all out of CA..... Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NC Posts: 585	another vote for sticky !

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