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Old Nov 28, 2011, 10:03 AM
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ok phil, great. thanks for the clarification. i forgot about the tail moment and how i think the original was actually a traditional stab, so it wasn't designed for full stab deflection i believe. darn, that probably means i didn't design it correctly. usually, i try to design the stab mechanism with an anticipated guestimate of how much movement is needed so that i can maximize the range of a typical servo to take advantage of finer control input on the stick translating to servo output to flying surface movement. i'll update the plans with your info. do you have an All Up Weight?... if you do, i can calculate the wing loading which some people find useful. can't wait to see some more pics of her.
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Old Nov 28, 2011, 10:21 AM
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Hi Beanie, Do you post a plan, in the futur...?
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Old Nov 28, 2011, 10:33 AM
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it flies great but i do think that maybe another is on the horizon with the conventional stab. I just curious if it will handle different not given so much area. Well i mean it will obviously handle different I'm just more curious into how much different. Sorry for the rambling. Time for bed. I'm a 3rd shifter. Later. Beanie the more i start to think about how would you feel about me pulling the tail off and doing it with a conventional elevator? Phil Oh yeah no weight yet i'll get weighed at the lhs later this week.
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Old Nov 28, 2011, 11:34 AM
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My Panther, the one ATIS has now, is conventional elevators and flies just fine. You won't have any problems with it.

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Old Nov 28, 2011, 06:18 PM
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I can second what J said... however, I like a little more elevator authority then she has. I never got comfortable bringing her in low and fast because the elevator always seemed a little slow for how I fly. But take that with a grain of salt as I only set up one rate for the elevator, ailerons get duel rates so I tend to have a very large elevator travel with decent EXPO to keep her tame in the middle and crazy at the extremes. But I am a strange bird anyways.
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Old Nov 28, 2011, 07:28 PM
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phil- i'd have no problems if you wanna go back and set her up with a conventional elevator setup. it's your bird, so do with her as you please. before making mods though, could you record the AUW please? i've seen J's panther fly with conventional elevators and she flies great. i like to try to hide all the connectors on my birds which is part of the reason i am partial to this current setup; but the lack of scale fidelity bothers me though.

enriqueigl- plans for the panther should be coming up soon. i just have to update the plans with a couple pieces of data. then i have to figure out how to print out the plans to pdf. i always forget each step and the setup. it always takes me about and hour to figure out how to make AutoCAD happy. eventually, i'll switch to SketchUp, but that's like learning a whole new language. when i post the plans, it'll be on page 1, post 1.

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Old Dec 02, 2011, 02:32 AM
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ok guys sorry for lack of updates just not much to tell. Alot of filling and sanding going on here. Primer hopefully in a day or two. Phil
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Old Jan 10, 2012, 09:39 PM
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Phil, any updates??
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Old Jan 11, 2012, 12:32 AM
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no not really. Weather here is not ideal for painting. Warm one day freezing cold the next. I have to primer and paint and should be done. Rally looking foward to flying it again. Phil
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Old Sep 15, 2013, 10:37 AM
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Mr. Shea,

Do ypou have a pdf copy of the beta planes for the Panther that you could send me? Ben and I have corresponded and he let me know that his computer crashed and he cannot retrieve them. I managed to get a copy of the F-101 plans from Allen and now just need to get the Panther to help complete the fleet.

Thanks for any help you can give.

Sheldon
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