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Old Jan 11, 2009, 06:32 AM
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Need help with my GWS Pico Stick..wont turn left

I have a GWS PICO STICK....Need Help Please
I flew it Pico Stick for the first time and it went up pretty fast but I could only get it to turn Right…it would not respond to the left…all my trims are even and plane is balanced…I’m starting to get confused…I test my ailerons left and right and everything seems to be fine but when ui go and fly it,,,it wont go left…it just barely turned back to neutral but a full left was something I could not get the plane to do…have you encountered a problem like this and does anyone have any suggestions? Or advise? to fix this problem?



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Old Jan 11, 2009, 06:56 AM
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Do you have any down right angle to the motor, to counter torq, the tail? Yaw
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Old Jan 11, 2009, 08:21 AM
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I have a GWS PICO STICK....Need Help Please
I flew it Pico Stick for the first time and it went up pretty fast but I could only get it to turn Right…it would not respond to the left…all my trims are even and plane is balanced…I’m starting to get confused…I test my ailerons left and right and everything seems to be fine but when ui go and fly it,,,it wont go left…it just barely turned back to neutral but a full left was something I could not get the plane to do…have you encountered a problem like this and does anyone have any suggestions? Or advise? to fix this problem?



Reggie
Reggie, this won't help much with your stated problem, but in the picture, you have your wings mounted backwards. It will fly better if you turn them around.

The vertical surface assembly, in the back, is known as the "fin & rudder",
the back, movable part being the rudder. If that part follows your inputs to the control stick, your plane must turn the way you command.
Be sure & refer to the manual that GWS provided with the plane, and do
exactly as they advise. Good luck, you have a very fine plane to learn with.
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Old Jan 11, 2009, 09:31 AM
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Yes Reg, Your main wing is on backwards. That would make it very difficult to fly.
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Old Jan 11, 2009, 10:01 AM
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It may still turn poorly when the wing is mounted correctly. I found these planes flew MUCH better if you added some dihedral. A Rudder Elevator only plane needs significant dihedral to turn well, and these have almost none right out of the box.
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Old Jan 11, 2009, 10:27 AM
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yes i had changed the wing after i took the photo, so that was already done before i Flew....
i was trying to Fly in Front of my APT parking lot which isnt that big...i was under the impression this can be flown in small areas...So i went to a local Soccer Field 5min away and it Flew Fine once i got in there...WOW i really like it....the turning is still a big on the draggy side tho but it does turn....ok and what is a dihedral and how do i modify my plane to have that..i'm new to Planes...i just got this Pico Stick and a GWS Slo Stick...that one is a LOT bigger.....i flew that yesterday and fell in love with Park Flyers..i'm used to Flying Large and Small Heli's and i just wanted to take a break and enjoy the stress Free Park Flyers...
So let me introduce myself..

Here is my Fleet at the moment...
i have been Flying Heli's for about 9 months now and planes,,,,,well 2 days...haha..
i wanna get another plane like a next start or avenger...something large with like a 48 to 60something wing span....a trainer of course....but for now i'm just enjoying my 2 park flyers, My Raptor and some small Heli's i collected thru out the months.

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Old Jan 11, 2009, 10:41 AM
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Wow cant believe that I missed that, man I need to pay more attention. Sorry
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Old Jan 11, 2009, 10:56 AM
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hey what's up Outback......lol,,,no need to be sorry...if anyone is to be sorry if should be me for not paying attention.....cant believe initially i put the wing on Backwards...haha..
when i bought my first heli i had the blade grips on backwards,,,so i was giving it almost full throttle and nothing and when i let down on the throttle all the way down,,,,,,that's when it lifted off ground.....Near death experience.....i had to learn the hard way to Fly Heli's....i want to make it easier on planes......Sucks tho on the weather,,,u have to wait until it's a calm day....it's hard to find that these days...

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Old Jan 11, 2009, 02:47 PM
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Reggie, dihedral is the angle between the right & left wings. On your picture of the 2 together, the Slowstick looks about right, while the little one is way too flat.
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Old Jan 11, 2009, 03:49 PM
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I just used some string between the wings to pull them up and together at the tips. I don't recall exactly how I did it, but it changed the turning ability dramatically.
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Old Jan 11, 2009, 05:36 PM
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i am so confused now..i just flew it local park again to see if i can spend some time Flying..it flew ok but turning was not that great....i seem to have to go fast all the time and that uncomfortable...i was hoping this thing would glide thru the air...it was a bit windy but not too much....then a slight gust of wind caught me and i landed against a tree..fortunately it wasnt stuck too high in tree..i almost lost it forever...im a little frustrated....i still dont know what a Dihedral is but what ever it is I WANT IN if it's gonna make it Fly better.. With this Dihedral,,,will i be able to glide better at slow speeds and turn a lot better? i dont even want to Fly it any more after what just happened..
i hope someone can help to create this dihedral....what do i do and is it worth my time to create this dihedral i mean will it make a night and day difference in my flying?
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Old Jan 11, 2009, 06:27 PM
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Reggie, here is the picture Mr. Lin provided with your kit, showing how to put in the correct dihedral angle. You will notice that he says that is what you need to make it fly good.
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Old Jan 11, 2009, 06:40 PM
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i still dont know what a Dihedral is but what ever it is I WANT IN if it's gonna make it Fly better..
Here's what I did to aid turning...it's called polyhedral. Essentially, upsweep on the wings. It's my slowest, easiest to fly airframe.
I just sliced thru the wingtips, and glued them back at an angle. Really did help me anyway.
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Old Jan 11, 2009, 07:34 PM
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Reggie - It can be confusing. Lot of good advice here. I had problems with mine. I added dihedral by using fishing line (just happen to have lots of it around). You can use clear tape and tape it to one wingtip. Then pull up on the wings so they have a bow in them and tape the line or string to the other wing tip. It seems the more dihedral the easier it turns.

I was going to try the polyhedral wing but haven't yet.

Bowing the wings (Dihedral) will make a huge difference in the way it flies.

John
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Old Jan 11, 2009, 07:36 PM
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I have/had several Pico Sticks/Cubs, etc and none of them turned good in slow flight, especially if its a bit windy. So I just took a extra piece of depron type material and made a rudder almost twice the size. That alone made a huge difference.

But your wings look almost flat. I would think that would be hard to do, since the center wing connectors are made at a angle. Butch
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