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Old Jan 02, 2009, 02:54 PM   #46
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Some of the components are probably made at the same place that Align has contracted to produce for them. If you let your designs out into the hands of those who run off a couple of thousand parts extra and then rebadge them it's your fault for not vetting and binding your subcontractors better.
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Old Jan 02, 2009, 04:02 PM   #47
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So you can buy all the parts from hobbycity

$35. helli
4 HXT900 servos $12.
450 motor $17.
30A esc $12.
1800 zippy pack $19.

then get that 401 gyro clone for $35.
cell pro from FMA direct for $50.

Now thats a beater.
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Old Jan 02, 2009, 04:08 PM   #48
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Some of the components are probably made at the same place that Align has contracted to produce for them. If you let your designs out into the hands of those who run off a couple of thousand parts extra and then rebadge them it's your fault for not vetting and binding your subcontractors better.
there is a school of thought that says that Align actually wanted this to happen

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Old Jan 02, 2009, 04:14 PM   #49
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So you can buy all the parts from hobbycity

$35. helli
4 HXT900 servos $12.
450 motor $17.
30A esc $12.
1800 zippy pack $19.

then get that 401 gyro clone for $35.
cell pro from FMA direct for $50.

Now thats a beater.
You got it; a few will never.

Some will say Zippy will be out of business as if they are selling low price lipos by giving away the store. HXT900 servos are junks, copied of others.

Let me say this; materials cost is almost the same no matter where you manufacture the products, equipment cost is the same. The only difference is labor cost which in normal cost structure is no more than 6% - 15% of total cost. The major difference is CEO doesn't get the pay as in the U.S.

Direct channel of distribution via internet sale is far more effective/efficient than normal chain of distribution cost. I'd say expect price will come down this year ..... best time for RC enthusiasts
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Old Jan 02, 2009, 04:41 PM   #50
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The more people we cant get into this hobby, the better it is for all of us. More companies will start making stuff and there will be more people to fly with. Who wants to pay $500 to get a heli you will crash 10 times before you can hover a battery? This is like the Radio Shack RC cars before you buy the Traxxas T-maxx. Im all for it.
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Old Jan 02, 2009, 05:05 PM   #51
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I would never give my money to any one of these clone companies, besides the owner there is a even bigger a-hole then with most of these kind of companies, and that's saying something...
It's like a bunch of zombies to some nasty gone-off meat, sorry...

And besides, why give money to some company which can't even design a product?

Wow, I love the blades, looks like they work in some kind of reverse format. Maybe this is there kind of innovation?!?

you can't hide those beads of sweat Dragonus


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Old Jan 02, 2009, 05:05 PM   #52
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So you can buy all the parts from hobbycity

$35. helli
4 HXT900 servos $12.
450 motor $17.
30A esc $12.
1800 zippy pack $19.

then get that 401 gyro clone for $35.
cell pro from FMA direct for $50.

Now thats a beater.
Which gyro is the 401 clone? I have an HK-450 on the way so now I need a cheap gyro

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Old Jan 02, 2009, 05:08 PM   #53
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Um SA entire tail and head are plastic bro.. no metal grips on either tail or head stock.

Yep your right , but the SA has a metal head block. A big improvement over the plastic ones that came with the XL's
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Old Jan 02, 2009, 05:08 PM   #54
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The 401B in that post "401B locked and loaded" its getting good reviews.

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You got it; a few will never.

Some will say Zippy will be out of business as if they are selling low price lipos by giving away the store. HXT900 servos are junks, copied of others.

Well if you get a few other parts it makes the shipping for the heli not quite as steep i think.
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Old Jan 02, 2009, 05:13 PM   #55
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Dunno what some of you are talking about , innovation ? 90% of helis use the same head and tail configuration so how as it stifling innovation ? tried and tested and good enough is what it is , i can understand that the quality may not be up to par but in truth a lot of the kits available dont sell in the numbers they could just because of price point ,i wont buy another trex because of that theyre nice dont get me wrong but so is a cheap exi or copterx with the nice electronics that get put in the rex.
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Old Jan 02, 2009, 05:14 PM   #56
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Hes probably talking about the g401b from xmseller
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Old Jan 02, 2009, 05:16 PM   #57
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I think you nailed it!! They are not making money on the Heli. They are trying to get you to get a bunch of batteries and parts with your order. That was the first thing that came up after I put in my order> FOR YOUR $19 SHIPPING YOU CAN ALSO GET THIS----<
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Old Jan 02, 2009, 05:21 PM   #58
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They do that for every thing you order
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Old Jan 02, 2009, 05:49 PM   #59
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Helis nowadays are like printers. They are just packaging for the real money maker: the setup.
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Old Jan 02, 2009, 06:11 PM   #60
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i can understand that the quality may not be up to par but in truth a lot of the kits available dont sell in the numbers they could just because of price point ,i wont buy another trex because of that theyre nice dont get me wrong but so is a cheap exi or copterx with the nice electronics that get put in the rex.
now the electronics is where the innovation is going to be if anything.

autopilots, flybarless stabilizers.UAV systems, AI crash avoidance systems, ultra long flight power systems....LOTS of room and possibilities there.

but that's all...ELECTRONICS......not helis



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