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Old Jan 02, 2009, 07:55 AM   #31
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I bet u its the same as CopterX ME rebadged..looks the same but with better blades and swashplate.
http://www.ehirobo.com/shop/product_...f2a93067d9ce2e
They posted a new set of Carbon Fiber blades at the same time as the heli, very nice for only $14.22.

http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...idProduct=8390

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Old Jan 02, 2009, 08:28 AM   #32
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i think they are the same than the one i bought with the heli but w/o white paint
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...e_White_(1pair)
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Old Jan 02, 2009, 10:33 AM   #33
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Just an observation; there is a lot of copying of designs by small Asian companies going on, but I always found it amusing that if I wanted, say, a Traxxas T-Maxx monster truck, that I didn't have to buy a T-Maxx to get it. In fact, it's possible to build a T-Maxx from aftermarket parts without ever buying a single part from Traxxas. Same with other RC vehicles. Sure, US companies don't offer the whole kit-and-kaboodle in one purchase like the Asian companies do, but it's still possible.

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Clone wars, it stiffles innovation. I know we are all looking for the best bang for the buck but it hurts the business who in all essence did all the work to bring the product to the market and all the cloners does is copy and do not
put in the labor of and iniative to design new things. Personally I think its kinda sad. Soon when the original producer is ran out of business the price of the cloned stuff is going to go through the roof. Remember when walkera use to be a discount brand heli which did alot of copying of other helis. Notice their prices has gone up after they had made a name for themselves. The rememberance of how some of these companies get and got started are short lived because there is always a constant turn over in the hobby.
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Old Jan 02, 2009, 10:38 AM   #34
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CopterX ME has got metal center hub & metal swashplate too
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Old Jan 02, 2009, 10:43 AM   #35
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May I add, $35.00 for a new 450 size heli barebone is very hard to beat and I doubt if the producer is really making much money off it. Could be just an intro price until a name has been made for themselves and then you will see the price climb (happens all the time) We are all being lemmings for this stuff. First we complained about the big helis being to big to fly at a local park so the helis got smaller , so small you can barely fly some outside. The 450 heli seemed to fit the bill for wind and local park flying. Now Ive noticed everything is moving big again 500-600-700 size (mabey thats why the price of this 450 size heli. could be part of the reason) Stick around and the tide will be back for the smaller heli if this is whats going on.
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Old Jan 02, 2009, 11:05 AM   #36
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Clone wars, it stiffles innovation. I know we are all looking for the best bang for the buck but it hurts the business who in all essence did all the work to bring the product to the market and all the cloners does is copy and do not
put in the labor of and iniative to design new things. .
if they hadn't priced in the stratosphere they would have this market today.

that's all there is to it .....greed.

and if they keep making this mistake they will lose it all. and they did!!! $500 200 class machines...get off it!!

do you really believe that others can't innovate while keeping prices low?

do we even need innovation...the design of helis is very mature don't you think? what else might we expect? the new Bell-hiller-Bozo system? a 5mm feathering shaft?

does the "torque tube" grab you intellectually??!!! cool name trivial concept

Align did this to themselves and now they are paying for it. at least in heli land.

But they are a smart company with lots of skills and they are diversified.....helis are only a part of their business (have you seen the electric lawn mower that looks like a heli canopy? )


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Stock is -41, this is a best seller, unbelievable !
Someone know wat was the amount of units at the beginning?

Waiting for reply and stock spares parts available before buy on, but I think this is the best 450 heli for training !!
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Cheaper price is also down to economies of scale though - the major cost of manufacture is in mould making, if all of these cheapies are coming from the same company under different names or brands then they can keep prices down.
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Old Jan 02, 2009, 11:32 AM   #39
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Stock is -41, this is a best seller, unbelievable !
Someone know wat was the amount of units at the beginning?

Waiting for reply and stock spares parts available before buy on, but I think this is the best 450 heli for training !!

45 or 50 i can not remenber
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Stock is -41, this is a best seller, unbelievable !
Someone know wat was the amount of units at the beginning?

Waiting for reply and stock spares parts available before buy on, but I think this is the best 450 heli for training !!
I live in the Eastern time zone and saw the stock hovering at 36 at 6 AM. By 8 AM EST they were down below 25, and by 10 AM they were at less than 20 and going fast so that's when I purchased mine. By the time I got through the cart they were down to 12.

I originally thought the price was a mistake until I saw posts in their Community forum that foretold of the product.

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$35 heli is great; especially when we are now in recession
and need some affordable stuffs to release tension.


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"recession" is the exact word concerning me
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Copy! What copy? If you can buy a laptop for less than $500, refrigerator <$600, TV for <$200, Digital cam <$100 ........

RC hobby is way overpriced ..... why? Because it's a hobby Manufacturers and dealers are making advantage of our "wants". We don't need it, we want it. , so pay up.

Now, it's a different story; factories are idling, equipment sits, workers have no job ..... make RC heli, even at $35 they are still making a living. Don't forget, there are 1.3 billion Chinese living in China, if only the makers can convinced 1% of them to get into RC. They don't need us.
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Old Jan 02, 2009, 01:54 PM   #45
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I like when they copy a design and improve on things like RC-Tek did. Their XL was similar in design but they improved on things that were problems on the align.
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