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Old Mar 22, 2010, 12:49 AM
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How much is shipping from Hobby City? I like this plane.
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Old Mar 22, 2010, 01:17 AM
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I recently lost my CF watching it burst into flames . Just before I heard a loud noise that may have been the motor seizing. The plane was up 300 ft or so at the time and I wasn't sure the sound actually came from the plane, environment was noise with nearby traffic. I liked the plane so much that I have ordered an ARF. This new ARF will have the same motor. Have there been problems with that motor? I found the burning battery but have been unable to find the plane to verify motor seizure
My question is should I replace the motor with a different one. Or If I choose to use the stock motor, should I inspect it and re-glue the magnets ??? What glue for the magnets and will re-gluing effect the balance? I do not want to see another plane in flames.
I plan to use a 25A esc and better servos
The usual i've witnessed and looked into on other planes is that one or more of the magnets displaced and ground into the backplate causing the ESC to go into meltdown and catch fire ,the ESC board turns to charcoal and the resulting crash can set the pack off smoking ,one large model it was handy to have a can of coke to put out the blaze and save the plane.
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Old Mar 22, 2010, 05:12 AM
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How much is shipping from Hobby City? I like this plane.
Depends on where you live, it's usually anywhere from 30$ to 50$
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Old Mar 22, 2010, 08:21 AM
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The usual i've witnessed and looked into on other planes is that one or more of the magnets displaced and ground into the backplate causing the ESC to go into meltdown and catch fire ,the ESC board turns to charcoal and the resulting crash can set the pack off smoking ,one large model it was handy to have a can of coke to put out the blaze and save the plane.
I've overloaded a motor in a flat foamy in hover - the motor smoked, then the esc burned out, and the battery puffed. Magnets stayed put - I'm salvaging them for other uses.
Not sayin that's what happened to hamradioflyer, but it's possible. Seems the stock setup is borderline
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Old Mar 22, 2010, 09:07 AM
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this is my favorite prop collet: http://www.rctimer.com/index.php?app=goods&spec_id=206

I know its 3.17mm, but I've used it on 3.0mm shafts and its gripped fine, I've tried all of hobbykings collet adaptors and they are either really heavy, poorly balanced and the washers have an I.D much wider than the threaded shaft! this collet is the lightest ive ever used too, around 3-4g
Thanks for this, I'll give the Hobby King ones a miss then.

RCTimer are selling this for $1 and if I'm right the postage is $2. I'll see what else they have that I need.
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Old Mar 22, 2010, 11:01 AM
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Cf arf

I ordered a CF ARF ( no servos or esc ) for $85 shipped. I did not want the cheap servos and esc that burned my last CF. I may replace the motor also.
Once burned ( literally ) twice shy. I know you can get a CF RTF from HC but their shipping is almost $50 to my door. I will not be buying any Chinese ARF's
unless I strip them of electronics and replace with a known brand. Anybody know of a good replacement motor for the CG ?
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Old Mar 22, 2010, 11:20 AM
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Most components are made in China nowadays, even the name brand ones...

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I ordered a CF ARF ( no servos or esc ) for $85 shipped. I did not want the cheap servos and esc that burned my last CF. I may replace the motor also.
Once burned ( literally ) twice shy. I know you can get a CF RTF from HC but their shipping is almost $50 to my door. I will not be buying any Chinese ARF's
unless I strip them of electronics and replace with a known brand. Anybody know of a good replacement motor for the CG ?
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Old Mar 22, 2010, 03:16 PM
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Thanks for this, I'll give the Hobby King ones a miss then.

RCTimer are selling this for $1 and if I'm right the postage is $2. I'll see what else they have that I need.
Oh, another trick to help the collet grip is to rough the shaft up with something abrasive, just so its a little less shiny.


I've just ordered a stack of bits from RCtimer, everything is so cheap there. Picked up another 2212-6 and a 2826-6, it'll be interesting to see if their QC has picked up at all.
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Old Mar 22, 2010, 03:26 PM
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I ordered a CF ARF ( no servos or esc ) for $85 shipped. I did not want the cheap servos and esc that burned my last CF. I may replace the motor also.
Once burned ( literally ) twice shy. I know you can get a CF RTF from HC but their shipping is almost $50 to my door. I will not be buying any Chinese ARF's
unless I strip them of electronics and replace with a known brand. Anybody know of a good replacement motor for the CG ?
We're spoiled for choice there really. Either of the two RCtimer motors in my previous post will turn it into a rocket with a 6x5e. You can get basically the same motor from Grayson hobby for a few bucks more. Need 30A ECU and 2200mah 3s lipo to balance.

Grayson also have the MicroJet, which performs almost as well but weighs much less at 34g. 20A esc and ~1800mah lipo

If you prefer less noise, then a Towerpro 2409-12 with a 7x6e works pretty nice. Fairly efficient too. 25A esc and also 2200mah lipo.


Turnigy Plush ESC and HXT900 servo's should keep her from burning up again
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Old Mar 22, 2010, 04:55 PM
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I ordered a CF ARF ( no servos or esc ) for $85 shipped. I did not want the cheap servos and esc that burned my last CF. I may replace the motor also.
Once burned ( literally ) twice shy. I know you can get a CF RTF from HC but their shipping is almost $50 to my door. I will not be buying any Chinese ARF's
unless I strip them of electronics and replace with a known brand. Anybody know of a good replacement motor for the CG ?
Here's my setup, see my previous post for details

Clouds Fly AP trim (3 min 0 sec)
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Old Mar 22, 2010, 05:13 PM
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Here's my setup, see my previous post for details

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2paSvLkMbQg
nice one. Can you explain me what you did and you can take off from grass??? Mine is not sliding at all, only Hand lunch take off i can do.
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Old Mar 22, 2010, 05:20 PM
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nice one. Can you explain me what you did and you can take off from grass??? Mine is not sliding at all, only Hand lunch take off i can do.
The rudder wiggle seems to help get it moving. Mine is not stock, 6x6 prop, somewhere around 16000rpm
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Old Mar 22, 2010, 06:08 PM
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wow your plane has a lot of power!!! that's why it can slide like that,
thanks for your respond!!
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Old Mar 22, 2010, 08:05 PM
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wow your plane has a lot of power!!! that's why it can slide like that,
thanks for your respond!!
Use a 2409-12t and 7x4SF prop from HK and you can take a rock with you.
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Old Mar 22, 2010, 08:35 PM
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This wed I will get a video of my clouds fly. I think you will be impressed... very impressed.
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