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Old Sep 14, 2009, 11:27 PM
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Thanks Michael

Will be (finally) starting the build tonite and will go with your setup as I am the same, I want it for F3P practice rather than 3D or freestyle.


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Old Sep 15, 2009, 06:19 AM
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The Piaget.
Iíll have to emit itís a pretty girly plane, And it dose take a beating. And it may be good for beginners to learn on or just to bang around. But, Come on guys, this plane dozen even come close to a pattern plane for outdoors. If all you want to do is to hover and flip flop around, then this plane is for you . Iíve read so much about how great it was. Well I have one ) And out of all the planes I fly. I have to say I fly this one the least. With just a little breeze. It doesnít fly that good for pattern outdoors. Not even that good for 3-D. It may be better in doors. Iíll try it come winter. But so far Iím not that impressed with it.
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Old Sep 15, 2009, 06:44 AM
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Yea I have one collecting dust. Trying to figure out if it would be possible to break back down to sell.


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Old Sep 15, 2009, 07:16 AM
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The Piaget.
Iíll have to emit itís a pretty girly plane, And it dose take a beating. And it may be good for beginners to learn on or just to bang around. But, Come on guys, this plane dozen even come close to a pattern plane for outdoors. If all you want to do is to hover and flip flop around, then this plane is for you . Iíve read so much about how great it was. Well I have one ) And out of all the planes I fly. I have to say I fly this one the least. With just a little breeze. It doesnít fly that good for pattern outdoors. Not even that good for 3-D. It may be better in doors. Iíll try it come winter. But so far Iím not that impressed with it.
Its not a lot better indoors - too heavy

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Old Sep 15, 2009, 10:44 AM
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The Piaget.
Iíll have to emit itís a pretty girly plane, And it dose take a beating. And it may be good for beginners to learn on or just to bang around. But, Come on guys, this plane dozen even come close to a pattern plane for outdoors. If all you want to do is to hover and flip flop around, then this plane is for you . Iíve read so much about how great it was. Well I have one ) And out of all the planes I fly. I have to say I fly this one the least. With just a little breeze. It doesnít fly that good for pattern outdoors. Not even that good for 3-D. It may be better in doors. Iíll try it come winter. But so far Iím not that impressed with it.
I agree with you, Downwind 1, but I guess each person has different priorities at different stages. My observation is that many people like Piaget over other planes simply because it can stay in air more easily. The plane is slow and stable in flight, but it's a struggle to use it to fly patterns outdoor. It's a bit surprise to me to see 3D learners are drawn more to F3P/Piaget type rather than more scaled type such as shock flyers.

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Old Sep 15, 2009, 12:52 PM
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I agree with you guys about it not being a good pattern plane. I have mine because I have to fly outside and my depron f3p's aren't happy with the light breeze I always have. The mods I made improved it, but if I had calm air I'd fly my depron planes instead of the Piaget. I'm currently building an epp copy of my Deluxe V3. I'm hoping it will be better than the Piaget in the air conditions I fly in. I'm going to copy my Osiris in epp and try it too.

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Old Sep 15, 2009, 04:50 PM
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I know this thread is for indoor F3p flying. So I donít want to get too far off the thread. There is no reason you canít practice F3p outdoors. Given the right plane.
Iím no pro and I donít compete. Letís say, I enjoy building and flying, and Iíve been doing it for a very long, long time. I think practicing F3p pattern flying brings out the best in you. I come here first for the best information and to share what Iíve learned. For the most part I do most of my pattern flying outdoors with foamys. Or as one would say ( pie plates ). I need a foamy that will handle a little wind and track well. So Iím going to stick my neck out here a little . Here are the two planes Iíve been flying the most all summer. The first is the Sobríe, Itís made out of Daporn, This plane tracks really well in a little wind. Sadly to say itís not made anymore. The second is the Blade Dancer by MS Composit. This plane is made with EPP foam and will take some abuse. It also has a symmetrical airfoil. So this plane will handle wind really well. I did some modification to both planes.
Remember weíre all in this to gather.
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Old Sep 15, 2009, 06:51 PM
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Interesting how we all have different expectations based on our personal experiences. I hated the Blade Dancer and gave it away after flying it about a month, I liked the Piaget better, but after flying a "real" F3P plane, nothing else really compares.

FWIW: Unless a dealer has stock on the shelf, MS Composit planes are not available in the US at the moment, but rumor has it that a new importer will be on board before too long.

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Old Sep 15, 2009, 08:00 PM
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I just ordered mine tonight.
Im using the stock motor, with a 8 x 3.8 prop
a turnigy plush 12A esc
1X HXT 9g servo for the ailerons
2X HXT 5g for rudder and elevator
For a lipo pack, i opted for a 2s 750mah Lipo battery, from what i hear, people are only getting 4 minutes out of a 460 mah packm so i wanted to go with longer flight times.

Will post pics here.
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Old Sep 16, 2009, 12:18 AM
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I'm curious as to how many people bought a Piaget on this thread that were it expecting it to fly like an f3p rather than a low cost and quick to build aerobatic trainer. There seems to be quite a few posts putting the plane down for being something it isn't and probably wasn't designed to be. I bought my Piaget knowing it would not be anywhere near as good at pattern as a real f3p or as good at 3d as a plane designed for that type of flying. I'm going to take mine to a gym next week. I'll have my depron Deluxe V3 with me, so it will be interesting to see how the Piaget compares. I know that a true comparison isn't possible because they're not designed for the same market. I bought my Piaget because of its low cost and durability by being made from epp. I bought some FancyFoam depron f3p kits at the same time, but with the intention of flying them only after I tried flying f3p style maneuvers with my Piaget trainer.

Has anyone on this thread done any aero mods to try to improve it? The few things I did to mine were based on things I saw on real f3p's and it did seem to help the model fly better. If anyone has done mods, please post photos so we can see what you did to make it fly better.

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Old Sep 16, 2009, 01:51 AM
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I bought my Piaget because I am sick of sticking my Breeze Pro back together while I learn indoor 3D. I do not expect it to fly as well, but I do expect that my shaking hands will settle down flying the Piaget knowing that it is not going to break at the slightest touch.

Also, we get 20+ planes in the air at once at our local indoor event, and I need something that can survive the inevitable contact.

I'm building it as light as I can for slow indoor flying. Everyone that lives near me seems to like 460mAh for flying it indoor.
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Old Sep 16, 2009, 06:57 AM
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While I enjoy attempting to improve my pattern skills (of which their are precious few), I bought the Piaget to build 3D skills. When I bought it at Hobby City/King this spring, you couldn't beat the price, so this plane is cheap fun for me.

(Cheap fun is a bit of an oxymoron in our hobby )
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Old Sep 16, 2009, 09:40 AM
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I bought the Piaget to have an EPP plane that might survive our indoor "wars". We have a group that flys in a skating rink every other weekend in the winter months. There are always a bunch of mid-airs. All skill levels show up, from beginning pilots to ETOC aspirants. I'd never bring one of my F3P planes to those events, but it's fun to fly there anyway.

FWIW, I wanted more 3D than F3P so I moved the wing back 1.5" to shorten the tail moment.

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Old Sep 16, 2009, 03:52 PM
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Seems the same here, I do get tired of guys chewing off my Enticements tail.
A few indoor flyers couldnt fly a striaght line if thier life depended on it

And even though I have a cheaper depron F3P plane (Breeze Pro) its not tough enough to survive even small dings without breaking out the foam safe CA.

What I do now is I pick my time when to fly and whens there's a break I get some nice flight times in. If it was flat out busy all the time I would give indoor flying away as I have better things to do than fix models everytime I go to indoor.
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Old Sep 26, 2009, 10:49 PM
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Hello all
Just wanted to let you know that I have just receive an order of new planes.

Techone Hobby Planes
Yak54 Min
Eagle Mini
Piaget Mini
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Energy Bipe
Piaget
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C05-3500kv motor
C10 motor comming soon
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