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Old Dec 17, 2008, 02:44 PM
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GWS FW-190 in EPO Foam

Hey Gang,

I have opened this thread to record the build of my GWS FW-190 in EPO foam. I received the kit as a birthday present from my folks. I have made a purchase at HobbyCity for Motor, ESC, Retracts, servos, etc. that should arrive tomorrow. I will attach pictures of all the items as I go.

Link to kit contents pictures.
Link to Motor, ESC package contents pictures.

Matt
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Old Dec 17, 2008, 02:51 PM
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Pictures of the Kit

Here are some snaps of the kit showing the designation of EPO as the foam material.
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Old Dec 17, 2008, 03:01 PM
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Motor, ESC, Retracts, and servos...

Here are the critical parts I ordered for the FW-190. I also ordered a metal gear servo and some regular servos for the flaps, rudder, elevator and ailerons.

SKU Description

SUP40A SuperSimple 40A ESC
TR_PC TURNIGY BESC Programming Card
OR011-01701 Mechanical Retracts 3.5mm x 140mm
TR35-36C-1100 TR 35-36C 1100kv Brushless Outrunner


When the parts arrive (tomorrow) I will shoot some pictures and post them as well.

Link to the pictures:
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Old Dec 17, 2008, 03:08 PM
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Building Plans...

This build will include the following:
  • Mechanical retracts
  • Functional Split Flaps
  • Independent aileron control (for aileron differential, if needed)
  • Finishing that will include: filling in the goofy pattern on the ailerons, filling a little of the panel lines; sanding; coating with WBPU; custom paint job; final layer of WBPU
  • Shortening the cowl to give a more scale-like appearance
  • Build/Buy scale-like engine fan for front of cowling
  • Spinner from Hobby Zone (done)
  • Pilot (if I can find a good one)
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Old Dec 17, 2008, 04:23 PM
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Your FW will be almost exactly like mine. Be careful with the retract install, as they are too big for the plane and you will come close to the top side of the wing. The 35-36 is a lot of power...really makes this plane fun and fast. Its an amp hog though.

For the engine/cowl. Look at the parkzone. It is surprisingly really good looking.
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Old Dec 17, 2008, 05:26 PM
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I hope you use the cool orange prop
Just kidding, watching with great interest.

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Old Dec 17, 2008, 06:48 PM
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Any idea how much the EPO version weighs vs the EPS? I expect it would be heavier, but I am wondering by how much?
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Old Dec 18, 2008, 07:49 AM
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Pictures of Motor, Retracts and ESC...

Gang,

I actually received the shipment from HobbyCity yesterday. That is pretty good. I made the order on the 6th and received the package on the 17th! Here ae some shots of the contents.
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Old Dec 18, 2008, 07:54 AM
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Your FW will be almost exactly like mine. Be careful with the retract install, as they are too big for the plane and you will come close to the top side of the wing. The 35-36 is a lot of power...really makes this plane fun and fast. Its an amp hog though.

For the engine/cowl. Look at the parkzone. It is surprisingly really good looking.
Finch,

I think my retracts are way too big. I think I am going to sell them ones I just received and see if I can not find some smaller ones.

Also, how did you mount your motor? I can see now that the stick mount will not work with this big motor.

Matt
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Any idea how much the EPO version weighs vs the EPS? I expect it would be heavier, but I am wondering by how much?
Bill,

I will weigh all the parts tonight and post them here. I do not have the weight of the EPP one, however. Now I have to find my gram-scale...

Matt
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Old Dec 18, 2008, 08:08 AM
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I have the EPS P-40 and the EPO FW190. I have not weighed them side by side - but the end product is not significantly heavier. I am using the same motor in the FW190 that I originally used on the P-40. Between the two, I think the FW190 flies better (but it has been aver a year since I flew the P-40 with that exact motor.)

Fly'em well
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Old Dec 18, 2008, 01:33 PM
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...Also, how did you mount your motor? I can see now that the stick mount will not work with this big motor.

Matt
I made a plywood mount that I glued into a GWS Mustang. It works great with this size motor. See this post: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...0#post10812960 I don't know how different the 190's cowl area is, but there should be enough room with minimal modifications. Good luck!
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Finch,

I think my retracts are way too big. I think I am going to sell them ones I just received and see if I can not find some smaller ones.

Also, how did you mount your motor? I can see now that the stick mount will not work with this big motor.

Matt
Those retracts will work if you want them too. I will get in to detail if you do. I can send you a picture. Also, if you do use them, replace those dang struts!!! WAY too much weight for this little guy. Try some lighter weight semi-hollow steel tubing or something.

Go ahead and stick mount it. I did and it works great. No problems yet at all. Just be advised. You will see two spots on the firewall for a stick mount. BRUSHLESS MOTORS USE THE TOP HOLE!!!. The instructions tell you to glue the stick in when you glue the halves together...in the bottom hole. On the NEXT page...they tell you that if you use brushless, you use the TOP hole. I had to run out yesterday and buy some 3/8" hardwood square dowl to fix that mistake!!!
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Old Dec 18, 2008, 11:50 PM
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Super Simple ESC

In the event your ESC seems to loose RPM's at WOT this thread on hobbycity.com may save you some time.

http://myhobbycity.com/showthread.ph...ple+esc&page=4

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Old Dec 19, 2008, 08:03 AM
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In the event your ESC seems to loose RPM's at WOT this thread on hobbycity.com may save you some time.

http://myhobbycity.com/showthread.ph...ple+esc&page=4

Todd
Todd,

Thanks for this, I tested last night and it seemed to work fine at WOT for about 1 minute. Of note, my 40 does NOT program using the card, so maybe it is different than the others?

Matt
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